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Old 05-17-2015, 09:43 PM   #1
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Gray water tank size not as advertised

I recently bought a 2015 Surveyor Cadet 321BHTS that listed a 40 gal. gray water tank. I bought a 42 gal transfer dump tank since we stay in a non-full service camp site for several days at a time. When I went to dump the first time, I noted that the transfer tote tank was only 3/4 full when the gauge showed the gray water tank was full. After returning home and hooking to my home sewer system, I did a careful measurement test and I had water coming back in the bath tub at only 32 agl. poured in. I dumped and did again with same results. Camping World contacted F.R. about it and was told the water heater is included in the volume???? Since when did a fresh water - water heater- become gray water? Has anyone else caught this? I will be contacting F.R. tomorrow (if possible) to make them tell me why I am losing 25% of the capacity advertised and WELL paid for.
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Old 05-17-2015, 11:31 PM   #2
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I did a careful measurement test and I had water coming back in the bath tub at only 32 agl. poured in.
Hmm, I was going to ask how you knew it was full- but you already answered it. Sure seems like a smaller tank.

Be prepared for the answer to be the fine print on the brochures, "we reserve the right to make changes at any time".

Keep us posted.
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Old 05-18-2015, 03:08 AM   #3
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Also, specs in brochures and websites are famous for their inaccuracies.
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Old 05-18-2015, 07:17 AM   #4
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Your water heater 6 or 10 gallon?
They include that as fresh water capacity.

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Old 05-18-2015, 08:15 AM   #5
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I agree with Turbs.

I think FR and/or dealer got the question wrong or were thinking fresh water. I can see where the HW tank could be considered in the calculation of fresh water capacity. But one the water is used it would have to leave the calc.

I have never thought to actually check the volume of the tank. Can you measure the tank and do a rough volume calc?

I also agree that FR might just say we reserve the right to make changes.

I am going to enjoy following this thread if other people begin to discover that the tanks are much smaller than believed.

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Personally I don't think the water heater should be in the fresh water calculations. When the fresh water tank is empty there is nothing to push the 6 or 10 gallons out of the water heater.
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Personally I don't think the water heater should be in the fresh water calculations. When the fresh water tank is empty there is nothing to push the 6 or 10 gallons out of the water heater.
But would the water pump move it? That is the question I think. Does the water flow from Fresh tank to water heater to pump to faucet? If so then the two tanks in total before the water pump could be viewed as a single capacity. Fuzzy specs if you ask me, but I can see that being done.

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Old 05-18-2015, 12:34 PM   #8
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I have a similar issue on my 24HFS. I am supposed to have 51 gallons (iirc) but I was only able to measure 40 gallons. I messaged the XLR rep on here and he said it could be an incorrect vent causing an air lock. I am going to bring it to the dealer to have it checked out... among a few other warranty items.
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Old 05-18-2015, 09:12 PM   #9
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Thanks for the replies and interest. I have a 6 gal WH but I did not measure the fresh water tank (46 gal) capacity. I know the only time I filled it, it took a while so I don't think I have a problem there.

I was not able to get the direct phone number and call F.R. this morning because my Camping World contact, who has that number, is off till Wednesday. I will post any news as it happens.
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Sounds like all crap to me. A tank is a tank and what they say it is is what it should be,do they add the volume of the water and waste lines into the volume too? Now I have to check mine just to see,but I have already had doubts that the FW cap is 100 gal as advertised on ours.
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