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Old 09-30-2012, 09:57 PM   #11
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Thanks for the replies... VinceU, I'm thinking your idea is not so dumb. Perhaps 1/2 inch is not enough depth for the AF to be drawn into the system. I'll look at it tomorrow and either add more AF to the tank or tilt the trailer to pool the AF over the drain, or both.
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:01 PM   #12
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Thanks VinceU and racerx for your replies! I'm thinking Vince is onto something in that maybe my AF supply may be a little low for the intake. I'll have a look tomorrow and either add more AF or tilt the trailer to pool the AF over the intake, or both. I've got 3 gallons in the system so far. Water heater is bypassed and water pump is working. With any luck this'll be solved tomrrow! Thanks again...
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:25 PM   #13
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that's another reason for not putting AF into the FW tank, you'll use way more AF trying to get the pump primed.
much less AF when using a winterizing kit and drawing from the jug into the pump.
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:44 PM   #14
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bikendan, I hear you on that, it is something I will certaily be looking at
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Old 10-01-2012, 10:29 PM   #15
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hey, sorry to bug you folks, but here is where I'm at. My HW tank is Suburban with anode rod.(HW is bypassed for winterization) I've drained all the lines and replaced the existing anode. My manual said put antifreeze in Fresh Water tank & use water pump to prime lines with AF.(from viewing the forums I will install a bypass enabling me to pump AF directly into the system) I've repositioned the trailer to maximize flow of AF into the system. My problem is as follows... even with the AF about 1 3\4" above bottom of FW tank all I get is sputtering in the lines & no return of AF from FW tank into the lines, the sinks, traps et al...the water lines pressurize but the AF doesn't flow. Do I need to buy more AF and fill FW tank higher to get flow? Thanks for your help.
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Old 10-01-2012, 11:14 PM   #16
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hey, \ My problem is as follows... even with the AF about 1 3\4" above bottom of FW tank all I get is sputtering in the lines & no return of AF from FW tank into the lines, the sinks, traps et al...the water lines pressurize but the AF doesn't flow. Do I need to buy more AF and fill FW tank higher to get flow? Thanks for your help.
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Three questions, I assume this FW system with pump was in use this season?
Pls explain your last comment the lines are pressurized by no AF flow.
Can you post pics of the pump and tank suction piping etc? Whats the rating of the AF as purchased? Can you dilute it if local conditions will not reach the declared value. Just wondering.

One last suggestion before you have to go to far. Can you connect compressed air to the suction tubing. Be nice to see where the tank leve is with respect to the "tailpipe". Not unusual to be more than 2" effective height in tank. Pic of Shurflow pump is attached, the small clean device is connected to suction of pump, problem is the blue piping is discharge higher pressure piping. the discharge side is connected to tank suction, backwards as delivered from factory! 2nd pic is the bypass kit many install.
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:45 PM   #17
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Okay, I feel like an idiot... after two evenings of trying to winterize by directions from manual, I called the dealer. there is an AF winterizing inlet at the back of the trailer. Took a few evenings off will try again on the weekend. Will drain the AF I put in FW tank into a big container I have and stick an inlet hose into it. Don't know why this wasn't pointed out to me in PDI. A common response from them was "It's in the manual"

Anyhoo, thanks to everyone who took the time to help me out...

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Old 10-05-2012, 09:04 PM   #18
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OK, here is where I'm at... plugged hose from AF into this... what tank valve needs to be closed? what inlet valve needs to be opened? Next compartment is into water filter... no valves at all, no valves seen underneath trailer... moving inside to the "guts" of the plumbing, this is what I see... at 2 o'clock and four o'clock I see HW water bypass valves... between them another valve... where does that valve lead? Should that valve be open or closed for winterizing? Proceeding clockwise we come to the Water Pump which moves fluid left to right... what is that filter for? So, at 12:35 there is another valve that I think should let AF into the system... At 12:40 is a valve that i think restricts flow into the fresh water tank.
My problem... even when I think I have all the stars (valves) aligned, I get positive air pressure in the lines, but no movement of anti-freeze...
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OK, here is where I'm at... plugged hose from AF into this... what tank valve needs to be closed? what inlet valve needs to be opened? Next compartment is into water filter... no valves at all, no valves seen underneath trailer... moving inside to the "guts" of the plumbing, this is what I see... at 2 o'clock and four o'clock I see HW water bypass valves... between them another valve... where does that valve lead? Should that valve be open or closed for winterizing? Proceeding clockwise we come to the Water Pump which moves fluid left to right... what is that filter for? So, at 12:35 there is another valve that I think should let AF into the system... At 12:40 is a valve that i think restricts flow into the fresh water tank.
My problem... even when I think I have all the stars (valves) aligned, I get positive air pressure in the lines, but no movement of anti-freeze...
Any help appreciated..... Norm
In the box with the pump pictured and the small strainer. You have both inlet valves open to the pump. I can't tell from your pic but one is the tank and the other is the AF inlet where your hose is located. The way it is, you wouldn't be able to pump tank or AF cause one will draw air. Trace those two inlet hoses/pipes with the valves and figure which is tank and which is sidewall connection. You should have a very short hose for the antifreeze jug, the garden hose you have connected will take forever to pump all the air out. Almost there!
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Almost there was right, Vince! All I had to do was reverse 2 valves! (in the pic I posted there were indeed 2 valves open to pump inlet) so proceeding from that pic, I just needed to turn off the valve to FW inlet. The pink stuff is now flowing! Thanks for your help. I plan to make a post here, with pics, specific to the Mini Lite, to help other newbies avoid the frustration that I experienced.
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