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Old 10-27-2013, 09:37 AM   #41
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My point is that we ARE (mostly)getting what we paid for.
I paid over 40k for this unit and I have more miles back and forth from the dealer them I have used it this summer. trying to get the factory to fix my brake problem now. wish I never bought this trailer
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Old 10-27-2013, 09:45 AM   #42
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Don't you love the Rv manufacturers' adds about the skillful Indiana craftsmen that build these boxes. They should stick to building cabinets and nothing more. Too many complaints with RV's. Perhaps China will see an opportunity as they ship everything else across the world. It's the only way to get homegrown companies to pull up their socks
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Old 10-27-2013, 10:36 AM   #43
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Don't you love the Rv manufacturers' adds about the skillful Indiana craftsmen that build these boxes. They should stick to building cabinets and nothing more. Too many complaints with RV's. Perhaps China will see an opportunity as they ship everything else across the world. It's the only way to get homegrown companies to pull up their socks
RIGHT ON!!!!! quality is absent, it is just a # to the plant manager on how many is push out the door...
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:40 AM   #44
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I paid over 40k for this unit and I have more miles back and forth from the dealer them I have used it this summer. trying to get the factory to fix my brake problem now. wish I never bought this trailer
Maybe trade it in on a Palomino Puma? Mine and my in-laws have been great. And it's half the money. You might need to run a bead of caulk here and there. And I had to rewire two of my speakers that were on the wrong channel. But nothing requiring a trip to the dealer.
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:42 AM   #45
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Perhaps China will see an opportunity as they ship everything else across the world. It's the only way to get homegrown companies to pull up their socks
Last time I checked, no one is in a race to match China's quality. Most things coming from there are either crap or full of toxic chemicals. I wouldn't take a Chinese camper if it was given to me. I think maybe you are thinking of Japan and Korea, as in the effect they had on the auto industry?
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Old 10-28-2013, 11:02 AM   #46
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Maybe trade it in on a Palomino Puma? Mine and my in-laws have been great. And it's half the money. You might need to run a bead of caulk here and there. And I had to rewire two of my speakers that were on the wrong channel. But nothing requiring a trip to the dealer.
if they made a unit with the room we wanted then i would of looked into it, but they don`t, we wanted a specific floor plan, and their were many out their but non like ours. I also do not want aluminum siding
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Old 10-28-2013, 11:18 AM   #47
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Last time I checked, no one is in a race to match China's quality. Most things coming from there are either crap or full of toxic chemicals. I wouldn't take a Chinese camper if it was given to me. I think maybe you are thinking of Japan and Korea, as in the effect they had on the auto industry?
I think his point was that they have reached the same quality level in Indiana that is presently being shipped from the multinational companies that moved their products from here to China, the question now is how low can they go before you stop buying a product that needs repaired right out of the factory, I was never fond of buying toys at Christmas time that said "some assembly required" why would I want a multi-thousand dollar trailer like that.
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I think his point was that they have reached the same quality level in Indiana that is presently being shipped from the multinational companies that moved their products from here to China, the question now is how low can they go before you stop buying a product that needs repaired right out of the factory, I was never fond of buying toys at Christmas time that said "some assembly required" why would I want a multi-thousand dollar trailer like that.
I read it as, if China would get in the market, US producers would have to step up to the plate and produce quality goods. Sometimes hard to get exact intent with written word.
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if they made a unit with the room we wanted then i would of looked into it, but they don`t, we wanted a specific floor plan, and their were many out their but non like ours. I also do not want aluminum siding
I understand completely about wanting a specific floorplan. We were quite picky about certain things as well, but there were many models offered that fit our criteria. I personally like the aluminum siding and the fiberglass models. There are many pros and cons to each- the cons of fiberglass just tend to be very expensive ones.
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Old 10-28-2013, 09:14 PM   #50
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I read it as, if China would get in the market, US producers would have to step up to the plate and produce quality goods. Sometimes hard to get exact intent with written word.
Correction I should have compaired quality to Japanese or Korean built cars. But then again many quality items are coming out of China and many other Asian countries.
I think the RV industry needs what the Japanese manufacturers did to the auto industry. In short wake them up.
Can't believe the couch I'm sitting on was made in China as well as our superb quality bedroom set.
We are capable of building quality items in North America which is proven by all the foreign manufacturers setting up factories here.

Right now I could not imagine buying any RV and not being mechanically inclined. All 4 of the units we have had needed my intervention to make repairs otherwise it would have meant numerous trips back to the dealer
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