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01-27-2020, 06:56 PM
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Sewer cutoff on new 5er.
My neighbor purchased a new Hideout 5er and the large drain from the bath does not have a cutoff. It runs straight into the cap. I will be getting photos to show this. I believe the cutoff valve was not installed at all. I know this is not a FR camper but I also know many people read it. He purchased it at Holiday World.
Any help?
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01-28-2020, 11:09 AM
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If I'm reading you correctly you are saying there is no valve prior to the main sewer outlet? so if gray is present it will flow when the sewer cap is removed? A pic would be nice.
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01-28-2020, 11:13 AM
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There is a valve somewhere, sometimes hard to find. Get under the trailer on look really good.
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01-28-2020, 11:22 AM
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Site Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KSH
There is a valve somewhere, sometimes hard to find. Get under the trailer on look really good.
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I'll bet a tuna sandwich this post is correct! 
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01-28-2020, 11:27 AM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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Is this Hideout considered a destination R/V?
I've seen two 'cottage' type R/Vs where the grey did NOT have a valve as they were designed to be permanently plumbed.
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01-28-2020, 11:36 AM
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Sometimes the valve is in the rear of the RV...
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01-28-2020, 11:39 AM
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If there is no cutoff then tell him to purchase one of these. These are good to have even if you find a cutoff...
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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01-28-2020, 12:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5picker
Is this Hideout considered a destination R/V?
I've seen two 'cottage' type R/Vs where the grey did NOT have a valve as they were designed to be permanently plumbed.
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OP says it's a 5th wheel.
Quote:
Originally Posted by pjoz98
My neighbor purchased a new Hideout 5er
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01-28-2020, 12:27 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iwritecode
OP says it's a 5th wheel.
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Yep, missed that, thanks.
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01-28-2020, 02:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dalford
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X2
My Arctic Fox 5er has one of two grey tank dump valves at the very back of the trailer. I couldn't find it at first either. But whether there is a valve or not, the end of line valve recommended above is a nice extra safety add on that's easy to install. Also, even with a dump valve for a rear grey tank, I found that the end of line valve is actually required. With the rear valve shut, there is a strong possibility that there will be 20+ feet of grey water remaining in the pipe between the rear valve and the main dump cap. I learned this the hard way, which is why I installed the end of line shut off valve.
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01-28-2020, 02:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dalford
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Saw this post and just ordered one of these for my rig 18.00 delivered in two days.
I'm really curious about missing valve.
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01-28-2020, 04:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dalford
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I always use this. Double protection from a nasty surprise
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01-28-2020, 05:09 PM
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Someone posted recently that a Riverstone FR camper was plumbed the same way. Seems crazy to me!
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01-29-2020, 05:58 PM
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Photos
How do I add photos to my thread? Help!!
I will try to add three photos showing the absence of a sewer cutoff!
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01-29-2020, 11:17 PM
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Might not be on the 4" pipe or the end. I suggest getting under the trailer and looking. The handle may have taken off and there may just be a rod sticking out somewhere.
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01-30-2020, 10:29 AM
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KSH, I think you mean 3". But I agree- I'd follow that pipe back up the trailer and see if there's something hiding out. Or there's a cable pull in a water bay or hidden up near the frame. They can be tricky to find.
Worst case, it wouldn't be hard to cut the ABS in an exposed area and add a valve yourself.
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