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Old 06-30-2014, 09:06 PM   #11
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Well fellas I can't duplicate the problem. It worked perfect today. I used both gas and electric 2 times, and the breaker never tripped. IDK.
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Old 06-30-2014, 10:07 PM   #12
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Well fellas I can't duplicate the problem. It worked perfect today. I used both gas and electric 2 times, and the breaker never tripped. IDK.
Good news is you got a good education on water heaters and you have some left over spare parts! Hope it stays fixed!
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Old 06-30-2014, 11:09 PM   #13
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^^^^ Yeah, I guess I did. I have the old (probably perfect element) In my TT parts bin aboard the Trailer. And the nice socket I bought to remove it.

Heck, If you ever need a socket to replace your heating element, and you see a large red Ram pickup, pulling a Windjammer flag me down, I might be able to help you. Ha Ha.
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Old 07-01-2014, 06:47 AM   #14
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So, you may think you are done; but you are not.

Just because you could not duplicate the problem, does not mean the problem went away. You should still track down this malfunction (though it is harder now that it is working).

1) It will likely fail again; while you are camping; at night; letting the smoke out.
2) It could be a loose 120 VAC connection (always dangerous and can cause fires).

Finagle's Law says that it will fail at the worst possible time; to cause maximum damage.

Starting at the circuit breaker in the panel find and inspect every inch of that feed wire. Examine it for burned ends, loose, blackened, chaffed, or cut wires.

Follow the wire to the outlet (even if you need to drop the belly covering).

Take the outlet apart. Look for a poor connection (I would just replace it; those RV outlets use a "squeeze" type connection with knife blades to make contact).

I would do the "ends" first (most likely point of failure) and then work from one end to the other.
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When I try to use the electric side the breaker trips on the distribution center. The first 2 nights we camp when we first got it, it did the same thing. When I got home I replaced the heating element with an exact replacement part, and thought I was done. The old one looked fine. It even showed the same Resistance as the new one did, but I changed it anyway.
When you say the breaker is tripping, is it the individual breaker that controls the water heater circuit...or the main breaker (ie30 amp)?
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Old 07-01-2014, 07:59 AM   #16
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Lou is right. The problem didn't just "fix itself".
Look for shorted/pinched wire somewhere between the heating element
and the breaker. Could be right on the WH. My wires were laying right
against a sharp metal edge. I easily bent them away but had I left them,
they could have eventually cut thru the insulation and caused a short.

Also wonder if the dunderheads at the factory might have put some other
device on the same circuit?? Are you SURE everything else works when
the WH breaker is off/tripped?

Intermittent problems are the worst! Good Luck finding this one.
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Lou is right. The problem didn't just "fix itself".
Look for shorted/pinched wire somewhere between the heating element
and the breaker. Could be right on the WH. My wires were laying right
against a sharp metal edge. I easily bent them away but had I left them,
they could have eventually cut thru the insulation and caused a short.

Also wonder if the dunderheads at the factory might have put some other
device on the same circuit?? Are you SURE everything else works when
the WH breaker is off/tripped?

Intermittent problems are the worst! Good Luck finding this one.
Yep, as far as I know everything else works when that breaker trips.
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Is this a possibility? Because this is when I have noticed this. Ok, so I pull into the CG, and begin setting up. I usually have the hot water switch that is outside in the HW tank compartment turned off when I'm done camping or traveling in case I run out of water, so I won't burn up the element. So I suppose in the past I have turned the Gas side on first. I don't know why, but lets just say that this as been done before.

Ok so later in the day I hear the HW heater burner come on. It reminds me that I should be using the heater in the AC mode, so once the burner goes off, I turn the Gas switch off on the inside panel. Then I go outside and turn the AC HW switch ON.
Then I go inside and I hear the breaker trip. I did this like 4 times last trip. I could never get the AC side to work.

I tried that yesterday twice and the AC side did work. None of the resets have ever needed to be reset either.
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What wattage is stamped on the WH element??

There are 2 wattages out there.... both are 120v AC
but
One is 2000 watts and that will draw about 16.6 amps and
will trip a 15 amp breaker in a minute or so.

You need the 1500 watt element that will draw about
12.5 amps.

I'm just grasping at straws but it's possible you have the wrong ones???
Take a look at the one you took out and see what it says.

As far as tripping or not tripping because the gas is/was on or not....
No effect.
Folks often use gas and electric at the same time to get faster recovery
during showers.
Hot or cold tank should not make any difference either.

A weak breaker is a real possibility.
They are easy to replace and cheap.
Home Depot or a well stocked hardware store can sell you a 15 amp
plug in breaker for about $5.
Take your old one with you to be sure you get the right kind.
(I'm thinking it's a TQL but don't hold me to it.)
That's what I'd change next if you don't find any pinched wires.

UNPLUG TRAILER FROM SHORE POWER BEFORE REMOVING A BREAKER.

Good luck!
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What wattage is stamped on the WH element??
There are 2 wattages out there.... both are 120v AC
but one is 2000 watts and that will draw about 16.6 amps and
will trip a 15 amp breaker in a minute or so.
You need the 1500 watt element that will draw about
12.5 amps
Bingo...
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