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Old 10-17-2013, 07:41 PM   #11
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I'd blame this on a WORTHLESS dealer and a POOR pdi.


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Old 10-17-2013, 08:41 PM   #12
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Excellent point Barry, the electric element will burn out in seconds, not minutes without water in the tank. Putting an inside switch or using the breaker, IMO is asking for a burned out element.
I never empty my tank, except to clean out and filler right back up.

Good point tho.
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Old 10-18-2013, 05:24 AM   #13
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I just added a lighted switch to mine to make it easier.
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Old 10-18-2013, 06:03 AM   #14
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It's not that big of a deal for me. After hooking the trailer to the electric pedestal I open the panel and flip the switch to heat water with electric. I don't turn it off again until I'm ready to unhook from the pedestal and depart the site.

At least you have the electric option, some folks have a tankless water heater and those are propane only.
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Old 10-24-2013, 12:38 AM   #15
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i don't see where a hidden switch has anything to do with an interior switch. Hers a tip, add one. they will be in series, so when arriving at the camp site turn on the outside sw and then micro manage it from the inside with a light sw method. that way you still have turn off outside sw on your check list and cant burn it up. i don't know about y'all but campers on a 30 amp CB will trip if too much stuff is on. god forbid a woman spools up a hair dryer while i am microwaving some bacon with the coffee pot going then the hot water cycles when not needed. a switch in no way should compromise the risk of burning it up IMHO. now if you stop turning it off when the camping is over then all bets are off. I say this because i leave my camper plugged in with the water pump off and could see a scenario where it runs dry from a leak or drain back or some other phenomenon.
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:04 AM   #16
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Rumor has it around 15-20 seconds.
My buddy Sam said his burned out almost immediately when he was draining his hot water heater. As the water was draining, he noticed the black switch for the first time. Wondering what it was he flipped it on and sparks shot out of the open anode plug.

Happens far too often and they are a pain to change.
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Old 10-24-2013, 07:50 AM   #17
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We've been on 5 outings now thinking that the propane automajically swiches to electric once we're on ground power! Duhhh! .....snip.....
breaker panel has a dedicated 15A breaker for the "electric" heater - which I can presumably use as an on/off switch without having to open the outside access panel.
OK we get it you are a bit peeved but you have the exact same setup that
the majority of dual heat water heaters have.
It's not a conspiracy by your dealer or your manufacturer to make your
life difficult.
It's cheaper and as was pointed out- if you have to go outside and open
the WH access panel you at least should pause and ask yourself "is there
water in here" before you flip the switch.

I'm puzzled how you had 5 outings and still thought it automatically
switched from propane to electric? Mine makes enough noise on propane
I can hear the burner light and hear it while it's burning.

And if your breaker is only controlling the WH electric heater yes you can
use it for an inside on/off switch.
I've been doing that for 8 years over 2 trailers.

Oh, yeah- confession- add me to the "burned out my electric element" club!
Got it right in Feb when we went south for a couple weeks of fun in the sun.
Got it wrong when we went out for our 1st summer trip. ( I plugged us into the power post, connected the water, leveled the trailer, went inside
to flip on the WH breaker breaker is already ON! Still had air in the
WH tank and no more electric hot water.....)

Here is a link to the cheapest place to purchase a new element when you
burn yours out. Cheapest price for electric element This may be found in our FAQ water heater area.

You learned something here! Enjoy your new rig!!
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Old 10-24-2013, 08:04 AM   #18
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My buddy Sam said his burned out almost immediately when he was draining his hot water heater. As the water was draining, he noticed the black switch for the first time. Wondering what it was he flipped it on and sparks shot out of the open anode plug.

Happens far too often and they are a pain to change.

That had to have gotten his attention!

I really like the idea of the safety pin on the switch. My old TT was propane only, and I worry about inadvertently turning the element on while dry on my new one.
Looks like a great mod.
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Old 10-24-2013, 08:31 AM   #19
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Happens far too often and they are a pain to change.
You got THAT right! You have to unhook the LP line and remove the
burner assembly to get to the electric element. Actually changing
the element is easy -if- you have the required socket.
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I'm puzzled how you had 5 outings and still thought it automatically switched from propane to electric? Mine makes enough noise on propane I can hear the burner light and hear it while it's burning.
That's easy to explain being fairly new to RVing myself! You don't know until you know...

We recently had a stop everything moment when my water heater kicked on, on propane and we happened to be sitting on the couch beside of it. I even ended up outside with a flash light to figure out what the "new" noise was. AND- this wasn't the first time we use it on propane. It was just the first time it was quiet (2 kids does not usually equal quiet) and with where we were sitting and had windows open and ... I'm new at all of this!
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