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Old 06-26-2014, 07:14 PM   #61
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I hope the wet grass in not from somebody dumping their gray water.
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Old 06-26-2014, 07:52 PM   #62
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I hope the wet grass in not from somebody dumping their gray water.
Nah.. it was the hot air colliding with another front causing a storm .

Wybdgrl do let us know how it all shakes out
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:09 PM   #63
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So, let me see if I read all the posts correctly.

City water line disconnected.
Fresh tank empty.
Pressure released by opening and then closing a faucet.
Lines filled with water including the hot water tank (winterization valves normal)
Pump OFF

Yet the toilet valve leaked water into the bowl and there is water no where else?

Is that right?
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:13 PM   #64
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So, let me see if I read all the posts correctly.

City water line disconnected.
Fresh tank empty.
Pressure released by opening and then closing a faucet.
Lines filled with water including the hot water tank (winterization valves normal)
Pump OFF

Yet the toilet valve leaked water into the bowl and there is water no where else?

Is that right?
That's the way I understood it from the git go.
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:52 PM   #65
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So if the camper was put away in the winter (cold antifreeze) and was unwrapped in the heat of the spring, the antifreeze mix in the plumbing could have expanded putting pressure on the fittings and valves.

Now the hot water heater pressure relief is set pretty high;
the water pump one way check valve is pretty solid with pressure on it;
the only other way out is the toilet valve.

I suppose the valve could leak internally a small amount that would go unnoticed over a period of months and add water to the bowl.

I would have to look at the delta in temperature in an enclosed camper and the amount of trapped water in the system to see how much water could have been expelled due to thermal expansion.

Not saying it did; just saying it could.
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:57 PM   #66
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So if the camper was put away in the winter (cold antifreeze) and was unwrapped in the heat of the spring, the antifreeze mix in the plumbing could have expanded putting pressure on the fittings and valves...
Only thing is, it filled once to within 1" of overflowing and now filled about 1/3. A little much for just water expansion. IMO
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:10 PM   #67
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Ya sure that's water? Who is hanging around the storage place.
Oops, sorry Youroo. I see you already approached this angle.
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Only thing is, it filled once to within 1" of overflowing and now filled about 1/3. A little much for just water expansion. IMO
Does sound unlikely, I will admit.

I wonder if it was "pink"?
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Does sound unlikely, I will admit. I wonder if it was "pink"?
OP said they had just returned from a trip, so I doubt it. IMO, it has to be the water pump being on either by being turned on or a bad switch. OP seems reluctant to de-energize the pump.
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:15 PM   #70
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OP said they had just returned from a trip, so I doubt it. IMO, it has to be the water pump being on either by being turned on or a bad switch. OP seems reluctant to de-energize the pump.
If the water pump were left on - either turned on or "stuck" in the on position (or shorted out) AND there was enough water left in the freshwater tank and/or the lines to nearly fill the bowl once and fill it about 1/3 a second time, how was the OP able to relieve the pressure on the system by opening a faucet? Seems to me he would have gotten a steady stream of water...UNLESS HE DID RELIEVE THE PRESSURE WHEN HE STORED THE UNIT, AND INADVERTANTLY HIT THE PUMP SWITCH TO THE "ON" POSITION AS HE WAS BUTTONING UP THE TRAILER.

OR, THE ALWAYS-POSSIBLE - - - POLTERGESITS
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Well, we haven't used the fresh water tank and periodically check the levels just in case, but we didn't specifically check after the leak yet. Good thought, though.
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Well, with only one line to the toilet and only 2 ways to get water to the toilet, 1 via city connection and 1 via on board water pump and with the city water connection eliminated, logic tells you there is only 1 way left. THE WATER PUMP.
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OC's statement about a joke reminded me of when I was much younger I would sometimes add a bit of water to my neighbors rain gauge that was attached to our common fence. Not sure if he ever figured it out but he did move the gauge, guess he did figure it out.
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If you and a buddy use the same storage and you both have like trailers and there is a possibility that his keys are like yours, does he like practical jokes?
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Old 06-27-2014, 07:34 PM   #75
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If there is no pressure in the system then by water should not be able to transfer from the HW tank to the toilet. The water would have to be under pressure in order to move unless the WH was higher then the toilet. Just because there is a foot valve the inlet is at the top of the toilet.
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