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06-16-2018, 11:28 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: North Texas
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I dry camp a fair amount but only travel with about 5 gallons and them top off when I get make my last stop before the dry camping site. My reason for this approach is to reduce the weight I have to tow the long distance. I carry enough water for the emergency potty stops that occur when you travel with kids.
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06-17-2018, 06:49 AM
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Pockets
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 137
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It is just weight that you have to tow. If you are going to a spot that doesn't have water, fill up the tank. Unless you are driving a great distance
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06-17-2018, 10:57 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: North of Seattle, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pockets
It is just weight that you have to tow.
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If towing with a full water tank makes a BIG difference then you are towing with too SMALL a vehicle.
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06-17-2018, 11:40 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 1,834
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TitanMike
If towing with a full water tank makes a BIG difference then you are towing with too SMALL a vehicle.
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I'd agree. I'd not think twice about taking a fat friend with. It'd be the same 300lb.
I like the extra tongue weight, actually. Working on putting the bikes on the tongue too. Eventually some (2) L16 batteries at over 100lb each.
Nevertheless, this will be debated till the cows come home and nobody's mind will be changed.
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06-17-2018, 07:22 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomgky
I always travel with a tank of water but I did have to renforce the tank. The factory supports were bending enough to let the tank fall out. I have a 2013 model and have heard they have since fixed this problem
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Sorry to inform you that "no, they haven't fixed that problem!". I have a 2017 Rockwood 2304ks that is suffering from the same problem and frankly thanks to the way the support beams are designed, I can't seem to come up with a fix! The cross members (that's a joke) are bowed, the rear support cross member isn't even fastened into place, and tank itself is sagging between the straps like like it's a water bed. Unfortunately we bought it used so, add it the long list of everything else we've had to repair/redesign. I'm hoping someone that's familiar with the problem and model can offer some advice.
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06-17-2018, 07:42 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 126
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I'm on my 3rd trailer. Never knew you weren't supposed to fill your tanks before getting where you are going. Until I joined this forum. Having said that, I've been aware of what water weighs for quite a while. Common sense would suggest not driving it like it's a Sherman running from the blitzkrieg. And it would suggest that filling up as close to your destination as possible. Water is usually cheaper than the fuel it takes to haul it.
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06-17-2018, 09:01 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 1,834
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Quote:
Originally Posted by klickitatjim
Water is usually cheaper than the fuel it takes to haul it.
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I can't imagine I'd be able to notice.
Even if I did, it only matters for getting going. Once it's at speed, it's meaningless.
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06-17-2018, 09:21 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: North of Seattle, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by klickitatjim
And it would suggest that filling up as close to your destination as possible. Water is usually cheaper than the fuel it takes to haul it.
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Your statement is true but based on the assumption that you will be able to fill with water as you suggest AND you'd actually want to use what you get. I've run into water sources around the country that stink of sulfur, rotting organic matter (like pond water), or are so loaded with chlorine it burns your nose
Last thought, how many actually view their RV as part of their disaster prep. I live in a part of the country that has earthquakes from time to time. The experts say were overdue. My TT is almost guaranteed to survive one. My house, not so much. Having water in the tank might just come in handy.
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06-17-2018, 09:54 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 126
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aeblank
I can't imagine I'd be able to notice.
Even if I did, it only matters for getting going. Once it's at speed, it's meaningless.
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Ok. But fuel is still more than water.
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06-17-2018, 09:56 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 126
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TitanMike
Your statement is true but based on the assumption that you will be able to fill with water as you suggest AND you'd actually want to use what you get. I've run into water sources around the country that stink of sulfur, rotting organic matter (like pond water), or are so loaded with chlorine it burns your nose
Last thought, how many actually view their RV as part of their disaster prep. I live in a part of the country that has earthquakes from time to time. The experts say were overdue. My TT is almost guaranteed to survive one. My house, not so much. Having water in the tank might just come in handy.
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Yup. Sometime your own water is the closest and most reliable
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06-17-2018, 10:24 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Alberta - East of the Rockies, West of the Rest
Posts: 1,785
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The last time I traveled with a full tank of water was probably in 2005 or so, it was not a pretty sight when it dropped out. Now, a full tank (80 gal.) of water would push me over the GVWR anyway. We just carry enough to flush the toilet and was our hands.
In a nutshell, know how the tank is secured and whether the extra weight could potentially cause other problems.
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06-17-2018, 10:27 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 126
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aeblank
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06-17-2018, 10:33 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: California
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In the Coachmen in my signature, I will be replacing the flimsy 1.5" x 1/2 14 gauge support bars with 3" x 1" 11 gauge steel supports. Mine flex a LOT with the tank full. The problem with many tanks is that if the supports get flexxed bt a full tank and stay bent, you will never get all the water out of your tank except for the tank drain.
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06-18-2018, 12:17 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Yakima, WA
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I just came in from re-installing my fresh water tank drain valve. I have a 2016 Cardinal 3450 RL, which I have owned for two years, and when I opened up the belly under the tank I found a 1/4" brace, about 4" wide, had shifted under the tank and knocked out the drain fitting from the tank. I am traveling so will wait until I get home next week to fully investigate why this brace shifted. My plan is to tack weld it to the frame to keep it from moving around. I'll know more once I get home and can really analyze the problem. At this point I am not sure why this brace would be able to shift around, but we'll see.
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06-19-2018, 09:35 PM
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Global Nomad
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: In my 36CKTS 5th Wheel
Posts: 811
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Just finish driving the entire 1,442 miles of the Alaska Highway. My 69 gallon water tank full the whole time. No problems at all. If there was a difference in gas milage, couldn't tell because of climbing mountains, dirt roads, and altitude. I never went below 8.3 mpg.
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2015 RAM 3500 4X4 6.7L CTD Dually pulling a
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06-19-2018, 10:06 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Lodi CA
Posts: 1,211
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I always fill my tank as it makes no difference in fuel mileage with my truck also it is behind the axles so there is less pin weight when full. So far I have driven thousands of miles and it is still there and it hasn't moved.
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06-19-2018, 10:25 PM
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54 Years, 13 RV's
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Northern Colorado
Posts: 846
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Flyboy700, my new 2018 2304KS bulged out the bottom on the return from my second trip with less than 2/3 of a tank of water in it. The problem is definitely NOT fixed.
It's fixed for good now with a little bit of effort and less than $100 of material. PM me for instructions if you like.
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06-19-2018, 10:31 PM
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnfort
Flyboy700, my new 2018 2304KS bulged out the bottom on the return from my second trip with less than 2/3 of a tank of water in it. The problem is definitely NOT fixed.
It's fixed for good now with a little bit of effort and less than $100 of material. PM me for instructions if you like.
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Not sure how PM works, but I'd be interested in viewing your fix, and any other feedback regarding your experience with your 2018. I'm at flyboy700@gmail.com
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06-19-2018, 10:42 PM
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54 Years, 13 RV's
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Northern Colorado
Posts: 846
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Originally Posted by flyboy700
Not sure how PM works, but I'd be interested in viewing your fix, and any other feedback regarding your experience with your 2018. I'm at flyboy700@gmail.com |
I'll try to get back to you with drawings and instructions in the next couple of days if that's okay.
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