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Old 09-20-2015, 04:11 PM   #1
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vinegar vs. ammonia

Could someone please! explain why it's okay to flush hot-water tank with vinegar... but some people advise not to introduce bleach to the hot water tank for cleaning purposes, and what harm could rv antifreeze do to the hot water tank if it's thoroughly flushed-out?
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Old 09-20-2015, 04:21 PM   #2
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Vinegar will release some deposits inside the tank, whereas bleach will only disinfect.
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Do not use ammonia in your drink system as it not safe to consume. Vinegar is used to get rid of strong bleach orders/ taste after sanitizing the system. It's ok to use a bleach solution to sanitize the hot water heater. You don't want to operate the water heater while sanitizing.


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Saw in a prior thread that RV antifreeze has a very corrosive effect on the water heater anode rod. That is why the tank is to be bypassed and the rod removed to empty the tank, No point in adding antifreeze if its just going to run out the hole.
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Old 09-20-2015, 06:48 PM   #6
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RV antifreeze is just polypropylene and should not be corrosive to the anode rod. This is the same food grade antifreeze that use to be in Mountain Dew. The best reason for draining and bypassing the water heater is simply the cost of filling it with antifreeze. Most water heaters are 6+ gallons.

To make sure I have antifreeze in the bypass lines/ valves I let the antifreeze flow into the water heater for second. Some is left in there, in contact with the anode rod each year. I have not seen addition corrosion on the rod. Some of the white hard water despots turn pink due to the dye in the antifreeze. A quick dip in white vinegar cleans the deposits off the rod.

Note I drain the water heater and replace the rod/ plug before doing the antifreeze.


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Direct quote from my Suburban Operation Manual, Winterizing section: "Antifreeze can be very corrosive to the anode rod creating premature failure and heavy sediment in the tank."
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Then by all means don't fill your water heater with antifreeze per the manufacture recommendations.

If you read the statement "Antifreeze CAN be very corrosive". I would investigate what antifreeze you put into your water system to make sure it for drinking water systems.

Strange thing the anode corrodes in water as well.

Either way you don't want to fill the water heater with antifreeze as part of the winterizing.




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RV antifreeze is just polypropylene and should not be corrosive to the anode rod. This is the same food grade antifreeze that use to be in Mountain Dew. The best reason for draining and bypassing the water heater is simply the cost of filling it with antifreeze. Most water heaters are 6+ gallons.

To make sure I have antifreeze in the bypass lines/ valves I let the antifreeze flow into the water heater for second. Some is left in there, in contact with the anode rod each year. I have not seen addition corrosion on the rod. Some of the white hard water despots turn pink due to the dye in the antifreeze. A quick dip in white vinegar cleans the deposits off the rod.

Note I drain the water heater and replace the rod/ plug before doing the antifreeze.


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I think you mean propylene glycol. Propylene glycol is in rv antifreeze and many drinks including g mountain dew. Polypropylene is a plastic polymer.
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Yes that is correct the antifreeze is propylene glycol. Polypropylene is a plastic.

My mistake...


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