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05-05-2013, 02:58 PM
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Water Clamps
How do you remove clamps on incoming cold water line going to water heater , Salem 35 FLFB 2012
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05-05-2013, 04:48 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by murry52
How do you remove clamps on incoming cold water line going to water heater , Salem 35 FLFB 2012
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Pictures?
Are they crimp clamps?
If so you have to cut them off and replace with worm gear clamps or buy the crimp tool to install the original type clamps.
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05-08-2013, 06:20 PM
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I removed clamps using Dremel Cut Off Wheel, worked awesome, installed new water valve using automotive gear clamps
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05-08-2013, 06:22 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by murry52
I removed clamps using Dremel Cut Off Wheel, worked awesome, installed new water valve using automotive gear clamps
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Saweet !
Carry on.
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05-08-2013, 06:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by murry52
I removed clamps using Dremel Cut Off Wheel, worked awesome, installed new water valve using automotive gear clamps
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Was this on PEX? Most people are of the opinion that automotive "worm-gear" clamps won't work on PEX.
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05-08-2013, 06:51 PM
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Happy owner SOB
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Cut em off, then Home Depot has "shark bite" fittings. Work like chinese handcuffs, no tools needed.
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05-08-2013, 07:00 PM
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Site Team - Lou
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sheriff1
Cut em off, then Home Depot has "shark bite" fittings. Work like chinese handcuffs, no tools needed.
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I am with you. This is the way to go.
I carry this in my plumbing bag as well as an assortment of Shark Bite fittings.
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05-08-2013, 07:05 PM
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Every one has a different answer but auto gear clamps work great as these lines do not have a great amount of pressure compared to automotive use
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05-08-2013, 07:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BarryD0706
Was this on PEX? Most people are of the opinion that automotive "worm-gear" clamps won't work on PEX.
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X2...if you have PEX, either have to use crimp clamps or shark bite fittings, PEX pipe is very hard material in which the gear clamps can't apply enough pressure to seal against the fittings...so most likely you can get light leaks at fittings under some higher pressure scenarios.
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05-08-2013, 07:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sheriff1
Cut em off, then Home Depot has "shark bite" fittings. Work like chinese handcuffs, no tools needed.
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I have no experience with them, but my concern with SharkBite is how long they will last. The only thing between you and a leak is an O-ring, and those tend to dry out after a while. Are you going to lubricate them from time-to-time? (I think not.)
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05-08-2013, 07:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BarryD0706
I have no experience with them, but my concern with SharkBite is how long they will last. The only thing between you and a leak is an O-ring, and those tend to dry out after a while. Are you going to lubricate them from time-to-time? (I think not.)
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Hmmmm. I was thinking the same thing.
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05-08-2013, 07:36 PM
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I agree Shark Bite O ring does leak over the winter as the system is blown dry for winter storage. The gear clamps will work if not over tightened as system is not high pressure
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05-08-2013, 09:54 PM
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Site Team - Lou
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Quote:
Originally Posted by murry52
I agree Shark Bite O ring does leak over the winter as the system is blown dry for winter storage. The gear clamps will work if not over tightened as system is not high pressure
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This has not been my experience so far (2 years).
Have you personally had a sharkbite leaker or is it anecdotal?
Changing them is a snap since there is a tool to unmount the fittings by hand.
1 2" Removal Disconnect Tool Demount Clip for Sharkbite Push Fit Fittings | eBay
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05-09-2013, 08:45 AM
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Nevermind. You are the OP.
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05-09-2013, 09:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BarryD0706
I have no experience with them, but my concern with SharkBite is how long they will last. The only thing between you and a leak is an O-ring, and those tend to dry out after a while. Are you going to lubricate them from time-to-time? (I think not.)
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The manufacturer says they are certified for underground and "no access" locations and to 200 PSI and 200° F.
SHARKBITE.COM
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05-09-2013, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Pooneil
The manufacturer says they are certified for underground and "no access" locations and to 200 PSI and 200° F.
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The question was about DURABILITY. Do they say how long they will last? "Certified" for the life of the product (eg, until they start leaking)?
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05-09-2013, 12:23 PM
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I don't have any particular engineering expertise, but if they are for use in non-access parts of a building, they "should" be extremely durable. The web page says "Design certified and agency listed," perhaps someone in the building industry could tell us more about what that means.
The question is not whether they will last forever on a pop up, but whether they are the best alternative for attaching PEX in our systems without an expensive crimping tool. My first order estimation is that a connection system that is designed for PEX will be better than one that is not. The anecdotal reports here suggest that they are.
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05-10-2013, 05:28 PM
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Shark bites are awesome being using them and selling them for years. Haven't seen a failure of one yet. Not to say they couldn't , but I guess that can be said about anything
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05-10-2013, 06:25 PM
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I will be using Pex with Crimp Clamps as in Canada Canadian Tire sells Crimp Clamp tool for $27.00 and works great also 10 1/2 inch Crimp Clamps for $6.00. Excellent Value
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06-05-2013, 04:41 PM
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I cut the clamps off, but now I can't get the valve/fitting out of the hose. Is there a trick to getting the hose off the fitting?
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