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View Poll Results: How do you winterize?
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blow out lines with air, pump AF throughout
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only blow out lines with air, pour some AF down toliet(s) and sink(s)
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only blow out lines with air, don't use AF at all
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only use AF, don't blow out lines
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11-08-2015, 07:39 PM
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Blow and pump the pink stuff 
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11-17-2015, 09:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Platokidd
Blow and pump the pink stuff |
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11-21-2015, 10:58 AM
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Happy Camper
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Huntsville, AL
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Has anyone ever had a problem blowing out the air and then pouring AF in the traps? It has always worked for me, but I live in Alabama. Sometimes it does get down around 0 F here in winter. It might depend on where you live, but if the antifreeze is not needed in the lines, why do it?
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11-21-2015, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Cowracer
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I see you have a keen sense of the obvious.
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11-22-2015, 01:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonylmiller
Has anyone ever had a problem blowing out the air and then pouring AF in the traps? It has always worked for me, but I live in Alabama. Sometimes it does get down around 0 F here in winter. It might depend on where you live, but if the antifreeze is not needed in the lines, why do it?
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There are 50 pages or so of opinions about this in the winterizing section under general Forest River community. It depends on who you ask. Some of us believe blowing out the lines doesn't get every last bit of water out and the remnants can remain in faucets and connectors as well as pool in low points. Stand by for opposing opinions.
Here's a little experiment I'm thinking of videotaping. Take a gallon milk jug and rinse it out. Turn it upside down and let all the water out. Shake it vigorously and repeatedly until all the water is out. Set it down on the counter and come back in 10 minutes. Turn it upside down and pour the rest of the water out.
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11-22-2015, 06:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonylmiller
Has anyone ever had a problem blowing out the air and then pouring AF in the traps? It has always worked for me, but I live in Alabama. Sometimes it does get down around 0 F here in winter. It might depend on where you live, but if the antifreeze is not needed in the lines, why do it?
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Beating a dead horse but It depends a lot on where you live and the RV. But to answer your question. Yes If you do it alone & miss getting all the water out of a valve or an end point. Such as a toilet valve or a spray connection. With the pink stuff you can see that it is there.
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11-22-2015, 08:02 AM
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Happy Camper
Join Date: Aug 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MNtraveler
There are 50 pages or so of opinions about this in the winterizing section under general Forest River community. It depends on who you ask. Some of us believe blowing out the lines doesn't get every last bit of water out and the remnants can remain in faucets and connectors as well as pool in low points. Stand by for opposing opinions.
Here's a little experiment I'm thinking of videotaping. Take a gallon milk jug and rinse it out. Turn it upside down and let all the water out. Shake it vigorously and repeatedly until all the water is out. Set it down on the counter and come back in 10 minutes. Turn it upside down and pour the rest of the water out.
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Sure, there are lots of opinions. I didn't ask for opinions.
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11-22-2015, 08:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonylmiller
Has anyone ever had a problem blowing out the air and then pouring AF in the traps? It has always worked for me, but I live in Alabama. Sometimes it does get down around 0 F here in winter. It might depend on where you live, but if the antifreeze is not needed in the lines, why do it?
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What do you mean by "blowing out the air"?
Sent (I think)
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11-22-2015, 08:30 AM
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Happy Camper
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Originally Posted by Mr. Dan
What do you mean by "blowing out the air"?
Sent (I think)
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Should be blow out WITH air...
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11-22-2015, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Dan
What do you mean by "blowing out the air"
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I think we all know what he means. He simply used the wrong word. He typed "the" instead of "with."
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11-22-2015, 09:22 AM
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only blow out lines with air, pour some AF down toilet(s) and sink(s). I do this several times between late November and early March. We use the RV year round tho only 4 or five times between Nov and March.
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11-22-2015, 09:34 AM
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I blow the lines out with air and fill with AF (bypassing the water heater and fresh water tank.)
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11-22-2015, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tonylmiller
Sure, there are lots of opinions. I didn't ask for opinions.
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You did "if the antifreeze is not needed in the lines, why do it?"
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11-22-2015, 07:03 PM
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Happy Camper
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Originally Posted by MNtraveler
You did "if the antifreeze is not needed in the lines, why do it?"
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Well, obviously that question was a bit rhetorical. There is no reason to do it if it is not needed, unless one wants to waste time, money, and resources.
People are certainly welcome to express opinions in this thread, but I was trying to determine if anyone has actually had problems.
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11-23-2015, 09:17 AM
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You only realize you "needed" antifreeze AFTER you discover the cracked, spewing, water spraying all into your rv when you hook up the system as you leave on a trip!!
I used the "air" and trap method for years; not anymore!! 😳 I hate bad surprises!
We live in Atlanta.
Remember all of those little elbows in your piping are "plastic" and any droplets of trapped water can force a crack.
With these new ez winterization systems why risk it? Takes 10 more minutes and 3 gallons of RV Antifreeze.
I drain; use air; pump anti freeze.
30 minutes start to finish.
We re winterize a few times a season.
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11-23-2015, 10:18 AM
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Happy Camper
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Location: Huntsville, AL
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Originally Posted by SilverbackMel
You only realize you "needed" antifreeze AFTER you discover the cracked, spewing, water spraying all into your rv when you hook up the system as you leave on a trip!!
I used the "air" and trap method for years; not anymore!! 😳 I hate bad surprises!
We live in Atlanta.
Remember all of those little elbows in your piping are "plastic" and any droplets of trapped water can force a crack.
With these new ez winterization systems why risk it? Takes 10 more minutes and 3 gallons of RV Antifreeze.
I drain; use air; pump anti freeze.
30 minutes start to finish.
We re winterize a few times a season.
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Just to be clear, are you saying that you had pipes to burst after using the air and trap method in Atlanta?
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11-23-2015, 01:34 PM
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AF only. When I see pink, I know I'm done. I start with the outside shower since it is the furthest, then the toilet, then the bathroom sink, and lastly the kitchen. Uses two gallons. The third gallon fills the the traps and several inches in the toilet to keep the seal moist throughout the winter.
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11-23-2015, 04:13 PM
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Cracked fitting in Atlanta
YES! Fortunately I stopped at a local RV center and fixed it in 20 minutes!
Was heading to Florida in December.
Fitting was a plastic "L" in back of toilet. Was a 2011 Keystone fifth wheel. Traded because of floor plan. Was good unit.
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11-23-2015, 05:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverbackMel
YES! Fortunately I stopped at a local RV center and fixed it in 20 minutes!
Was heading to Florida in December.
Fitting was a plastic "L" in back of toilet. Was a 2011 Keystone fifth wheel. Traded because of floor plan. Was good unit.
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I would bet that the line running to the toilet would be the most susceptible to having water left in it if you only blow out the lines with air. I wonder how many people think to depress the foot pedal while the air is being blown through. I'm not sure I would.
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11-23-2015, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Iwritecode
I would bet that the line running to the toilet would be the most susceptible to having water left in it if you only blow out the lines with air. I wonder how many people think to depress the foot pedal while the air is being blown through. I'm not sure I would.
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