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Old 09-30-2008, 06:12 PM   #1
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Winterizing Questions

I'm trying to winterize my Surveyor 235RKS. I drained the fresh water tank through the outlet pipe in the undercarriage. I opened all of the faucets, hot and cold, and then opened the low drain points in the undercarriage to drain as much water from the system as possible. I drained and bypassed the hot water heater. Everything was then re-capped. Then I closed all of the faucets and turned the valve by the pump to begin sucking RV antifreeze into the system; opening the outside shower cold water to begin with. Now, I've fed 19 gallons of RV antifreeze into this trailer!! The water in most of the faucets is only light pink; far from full color pink. At this stage, I would say that I am NOT fully protected from freezing as the color is too pale. But that seems like a LOT of RV antifreeze. Am I doing something wrong? It all seems so diluted. I'm a little frustrated. It doesn't seem possible that it should require this much RV antifreeze.

Also, do any of you put any RV antifreeze in the fresh water tank?

Outside of taking care of the battery, do you guys do anything else? The trailer is stored inside my barn but it is unheated and can reach -20 degrees or less here in Minnesota.
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Old 09-30-2008, 06:19 PM   #2
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Do you know what? I just realized that I forgot to take out the water filter. Do you suppose that the protection is actually fine and that the filter is taking the coloring out of the fluid?
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Old 09-30-2008, 06:25 PM   #3
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Do you think that I could use the antifreeze tester for my car to test some of this fluid to see what the actual protection is?

Even the clear fluid had a real bitter taste to the tongue.


Sorry for the "stream of consciousness" nature of these posts.

Any insights are hugely welcome.
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Old 09-30-2008, 06:57 PM   #4
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Do you know what? I just realized that I forgot to take out the water filter. Do you suppose that the protection is actually fine and that the filter is taking the coloring out of the fluid?
You guessed the problem without any help. Lots of people make the same mistake. The antifreeze is still good so you can leave it as is if you want and wait till next de-winterization to replace the filter. Sorry you had to use so much antii-freeze before you realized what happened.

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Old 09-30-2008, 10:03 PM   #5
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Thanks. Bet I won't make THAT mistake again!! Or if I do, I'll catch on quicker!! LOL
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Old 10-01-2008, 01:16 AM   #6
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Did you really say -20 degrees INSIDE the barn !?!?! Time for you people to move to Southern California !! ;-) I think the coldest if EVER gets where I am at is maybe 32 degrees for a few hours a few times a year. I do wish we had the colorful season changes you folks have among other things.
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Your antifreeze should be the same color as it was in the bottle it came from.
My park trailer only takes 2 gallons to winterize. Sounds like you may have plenty down the drains and in the tanks. I never put pink stuff in the fresh water tanks. Simply drain it. I leave the valve open too. Screen the end if you worry about bugs getting in.
Last year, it was -30F up here for about a month straight...no problems with the RV.

Here is the checklist I made for my Park Model...your procedures may vary:

RV Winterization & Storage Procedures For Park Model

**NOTE: Keep in mind these are instructions for a Park Model trailer, which has no outdoor shower, black, gray, or fresh water holding tanks and no water pump. You may need to add steps for these as well.

Winterizing the Plumbing System:
Turn the exterior fresh water supply hose off
Drain and store the fresh water hose
Drain Water Heater by opening lower drain valve & over pressure valve
Remove Low Point Drain caps under trailer & open all faucets/shower
Flush toilet, remove all water, sponge out tank, plunge bowl dry.
Bypass the Water Heater using installed valves
Remove Water Filter* in bathroom, and reinstall holder.
*Buy new filter for Spring!

Ice Maker/ Refer:*
Unplug refrigerator cord
Remove lower pump cover on rear
Disconnect wire harness on rear of pump
Disconnect Ice Maker pump water lines (top & bottom) and drain/blow out
Remove (2) screws on pump and store pump at home
Close water valve, and blow out line from sink to maker
*To avoid removing pump, you may leave system together and make pink ice prior to unplugging system. Must be done after lines are filled with antifreeze. You may also simply disconnect the upper line on the fridge, and pump antifreeze until it comes out the end and reconnect to fridge. No need for pink ice.

Reinstall low point drain caps, close all faucets, and water heater drain/pressure valve.
*If using a compressor to blow air out of system, connect system and blow out each spigot starting with closest to connection. If not, skip to next step.

Using RV antifreeze (2-3 gallons) and a manual pump connected to exterior water port:

Start with closest tap, and work your way out. Lay shower hose in shower base while winterizing it. Winterizing (manually)works best with 2 people, and FRS radios.

Open one faucet valve at a time and pump antifreeze into system until it runs pink from each tap.


Pour antifreeze into each sink drain, shower drain, toilet tank, and toilet bowl.
Wait a few minutes, then close exterior sewer pipe outlet blades.


Winter Storage Checklist:
Clean interior well
Clean and prop open doors on refrigerator
Completely remove all food items
Remove all cleaning liquids, sprays, etc.
Remove LCD TV’s/remotes
Remove Keurig Coffee maker
Remove clothing and bedding items
Remove paper products, or store in plastic containers (TP)
Remove all other items that will freeze or mice can get
Remove remote control, thermostat, clock and any other batteries
Lay out (mouse) glue traps inside
Lay out Decon poison and mothballs under trailer/shed
Clean roof, gutters, and slide tops
Lower TV antennae/lubricate
Inspect roof and seams, caulk as necessary
Plug furnace ports/cord entry hole with steel wool/covers
Store/drain garden hose & gated Y.
Close slide-outs/clean tops
Close vents, windows, & shades
Turn propane tanks off
Turn off all circuit breakers
Remove all trash
Remove RV battery, store indoors, keep charged
Lock all doors, & compartments

Yard & Garden:
Blow/rake leaves, mow lawn, seed/fertilize lawn.
Dump flower planters and store
Stabil to gas in lawnmower
Remove all items that can freeze from shed
Lock up all items
Remove all trash
Bring home Jet Ski for winterization before end of season
Call Electric company/cable to suspend service (mine is cheaper to leave on)
Check trailer tire air pressure/top off
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By leaving the filter in the canister will actually separate the color of the antifreeze?...
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By leaving the filter in the canister will actually separate the color of the antifreeze?...

I have no idea. Never tried it. Sounds like it could/should, however.
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Old 10-05-2008, 06:11 PM   #10
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Just went up to the hobby farm, went in the barn where the trailer is stored, and ran some more RV antifreeze throught the system. This time WTIHOUT the filter. It only took about 3 gallons to flush the whole system. How embarrassing that I ran all of that antifreeze through the system thinking it was water coming out. I can tell you for sure that the water filter takes out the pink coloring!!
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