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Old 03-30-2013, 06:42 PM   #31
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I have the same problem when I use my hair dryer. Oh, wait a minute, I use a towel.
I'm with you there, and it get's easier with each passing day.

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Now that you understand you can't run everything with a 30 amp service, you are going to look upon your neighbors with 50 amp RV's more enviously now. Here is copy of a previous post that explains how 50 amp is different from 30 amp, along with why RV's with 50 amp can use so many more electrical items.

Most experienced camper owners fairly understand the common 30 amp service. It's 110 volt, and you are limited to using a total 30 amps of electrical stuff in your trailer at the same time. Most have learned that you have to turn some things off in your trailer.... when using toasters, hair dryers, and other things that take a lot of electricity to power or you will trip the breaker(s).

Now with a 50 amp service, common sense says that you now have 50 amps of total power, as the name applies, versus the 30 amp previously discussed....or 20 amps more than 30 amps. (20 + 30 = 50)

Now the fun part: You have more than 50 amps total when hooked to a 50 amp service. This 50 amp service is 220 volt (2 X 110), but the service is actually split into two 110 volt sides....EACH with 50 amps.

So, in reality you have TWO (2) fifty amp lines supplying power to your trailer....or a total of 100 amps when connected this way.....or as some voltage monitors say L1 and L2. This is over three times as much as a 30 amp service.

Because you have 100 total amps (over 3 times as much as a 30 amp), you can run all kind of electrical stuff at the same time now. 2 air-conditioners, water heaters, microwaves, toasters, hair dryers. etc. You are still going to be limited to the individual circuit breakers for each circuit/outlet. It's so much better than a 30 amp service. You can run up to 50 amps of stuff on your L1 side and then up to 50 amps of other stuff on your L2 side.

Unless you get into some higher-end RV's, nothing in your travel trailer actually uses 220 volt, but everything works off of 110 volt either on your L1 or L2 sides. This is the part that confuses a lot of people.

The sides (L1, L2) share a common 50 amp breaker and plug-in in the campground pedestal, so if there is a problem on either side, then the breaker trips....shutting down both sides. It might not be as confusing if the breaker had printed on it 50(x2).

Because RV's with 50 amp service have the ability to use over 3 times as much electricity as RV's with 30 amp service, you can understand why many campgrounds charge extra for 50 amp service sites.

When you started this forum, you asked about an adapter for using your 30 amp trailer on a 50 amp service. What this adapter does is just takes one 110 volt side of this 50 amp(x2) service, to provide power to you........and terminates the other 110 volt side inside the adapter so it doesn't provide anything. It's pretty straightforward and simple when you understand how it all works.
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Old 03-30-2013, 07:21 PM   #32
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On the (Bourbon Trail) in KY. we encountered a C/G in Bardstown,KY. (50) amp only! They had adapters for rent & sale,we had our own adapters we travel with. Youroo!!
been there...the only one, ive stayed in, with 50 and 20 but no 30. campground loaned me an adapter. if it was the same one, it is near the heaven hill bottling plant.
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:33 PM   #33
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I'm with you there, and it get's easier with each passing day.

Back on topic:

Now that you understand you can't run everything with a 30 amp service, you are going to look upon your neighbors with 50 amp RV's more enviously now. Here is copy of a previous post that explains how 50 amp is different from 30 amp, along with why RV's with 50 amp can use so many more electrical items.

Most experienced camper owners fairly understand the common 30 amp service. It's 110 volt, and you are limited to using a total 30 amps of electrical stuff in your trailer at the same time. Most have learned that you have to turn some things off in your trailer.... when using toasters, hair dryers, and other things that take a lot of electricity to power or you will trip the breaker(s).

Now with a 50 amp service, common sense says that you now have 50 amps of total power, as the name applies, versus the 30 amp previously discussed....or 20 amps more than 30 amps. (20 + 30 = 50)

Now the fun part: You have more than 50 amps total when hooked to a 50 amp service. This 50 amp service is 220 volt (2 X 110), but the service is actually split into two 110 volt sides....EACH with 50 amps.

So, in reality you have TWO (2) fifty amp lines supplying power to your trailer....or a total of 100 amps when connected this way.....or as some voltage monitors say L1 and L2. This is over three times as much as a 30 amp service.

Because you have 100 total amps (over 3 times as much as a 30 amp), you can run all kind of electrical stuff at the same time now. 2 air-conditioners, water heaters, microwaves, toasters, hair dryers. etc. You are still going to be limited to the individual circuit breakers for each circuit/outlet. It's so much better than a 30 amp service. You can run up to 50 amps of stuff on your L1 side and then up to 50 amps of other stuff on your L2 side.

Unless you get into some higher-end RV's, nothing in your travel trailer actually uses 220 volt, but everything works off of 110 volt either on your L1 or L2 sides. This is the part that confuses a lot of people.

The sides (L1, L2) share a common 50 amp breaker and plug-in in the campground pedestal, so if there is a problem on either side, then the breaker trips....shutting down both sides. It might not be as confusing if the breaker had printed on it 50(x2).

Because RV's with 50 amp service have the ability to use over 3 times as much electricity as RV's with 30 amp service, you can understand why many campgrounds charge extra for 50 amp service sites.

When you started this forum, you asked about an adapter for using your 30 amp trailer on a 50 amp service. What this adapter does is just takes one 110 volt side of this 50 amp(x2) service, to provide power to you........and terminates the other 110 volt side inside the adapter so it doesn't provide anything. It's pretty straightforward and simple when you understand how it all works.
well crap - have to call the dealer anyway - might as well trade the trailer...

The 30 amp thing is a continual pain in my butt and the roving neighbor's eyes.

Saturday morning, again, fired up the coffee maker but forgot to turn off the fireplace first. boom, there goes the breaker, and out I walk in my boxer's and a smile to the pedestal to flip it back on.
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:47 PM   #34
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The DW's hair dryer has been the cause of tripped breakers and fire alarms.

She now has a MUCH smaller unit (still 1000 watts though) that is only used in the camper.
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well crap - have to call the dealer anyway - might as well trade the trailer...

The 30 amp thing is a continual pain in my butt and the roving neighbor's eyes.

Saturday morning, again, fired up the coffee maker but forgot to turn off the fireplace first. boom, there goes the breaker, and out I walk in my boxer's and a smile to the pedestal to flip it back on.
See if your dealer can convert you to 50 amp. It's just a new cord to pedestal and breaker box in your rig. The redneck option would be to run a extension cord from a 20 amp plug on the pedestal through a window, or straight to the fridge if it is plugged into an AC outlet behind the access panel. Taking the fridge off your main panel might give you enough. It sucks that camping on 30 amps takes as much planning as powering up Apollo XIII for landing.
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Old 04-01-2013, 09:49 PM   #36
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It sucks that camping on 30 amps takes as much planning as powering up Apollo XIII for landing.
It's not really that bad........unless you happen to see jeeplj8 in his boxers at the next campsite. (just kidding as it is April 1st)
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been there...the only one, ive stayed in, with 50 and 20 but no 30. campground loaned me an adapter. if it was the same one, it is near the heaven hill bottling plant.
Yes it was close to (Heaven!). Youroo!!
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