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03-23-2017, 09:28 AM
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The concern is that there is apparently no subpanel with breakers. It sounds as though he has some type of cord that would plug in and split off to outlets without properly sized breakers protecting those outlets. The real problem is that we really aren't sure just what he has. The OP states he understands the concern and is dealing with it properly.
See post #15.
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03-23-2017, 09:29 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: West Central Ar
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50 amp power
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Originally Posted by USNRET
Can I use a 50 amp extension cord with 4 receptacles at the same time I'm using my TT 30 amp service? ie: both plugged in at the same time at the campsite.
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No sure about this one- but still curious about plugging a 30 into a 50 amp box. if you adapt down from a 50 to a 30 (and only run one a/c) what is the fused protection at the toaster or etc ?
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03-23-2017, 09:34 AM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: South Western PA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by USNRET
I am the original poster and it looks as if I ruffled some feathers not what I was trying to do. the cable yes has a 4 pin twist lock connector on one end goes to a generator at the other end are 4 20 amp receptacles, 2 of the receptacles go to line 1 neutral and ground and the other 2 receptacles go to line 2 neutral and ground. BUT I totally agree this is an Unsafe thing to do! the breakers on the pedestal are 50 amp for each leg (phase, line, leg or what ever) and the cable at best is 10 gauge (cable melts before breaker trips)!!! So I will save the cable in case I need to replace my 30 am TT cable (I will only use 3 of the 4 conductors) and buy a good 12 gauge extension cord for a dedicated circuit if needed. Again thanks to all.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CedarCreekWoody
The concern is that there is apparently no subpanel with breakers. It sounds as though he has some type of cord that would plug in and split off to outlets without properly sized breakers protecting those outlets. The real problem is that we really aren't sure just what he has. The OP states he understands the concern and is dealing with it properly.
See post #15.
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And now we have... the rest of the story.
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03-23-2017, 09:35 AM
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Location: West Central Ar
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Reason I asked this is- I have a 50amp camper and only a 25' ft power cord- I have an extra 30' 30 amp power cord. wondering how I could se the two cords together when I'm 40' from the pedestal.
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03-23-2017, 09:37 AM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeeWayne
Reason I asked this is- I have a 50amp camper and only a 25' ft power cord- I have an extra 30' 30 amp power cord. wondering how I could se the two cords together when I'm 40' from the pedestal.
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Start a new post.
You will get hundreds of reasons why you should or shouldn't adapt.
This has been discussed many times.
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03-23-2017, 09:55 AM
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Location: Englewood FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeeWayne
Reason I asked this is- I have a 50amp camper and only a 25' ft power cord- I have an extra 30' 30 amp power cord. wondering how I could se the two cords together when I'm 40' from the pedestal.
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There is one way and one way only. Use a 50 to 30 amp dogbone on the end of the 50 amp cord and then connect the 30 amp extension cord and run it to a 30 amp pedestal receptacle. Totally safe and acceptable. Nothing else will work according to code.
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03-23-2017, 10:07 AM
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Location: West Central Ar
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Thanks ScottBrownstien-I understand- putting 30 through 50 ok but not 50 through the 30--(but then you'd have to use more adapters) not good- ha -thanks
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03-23-2017, 10:20 AM
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Thanks ScottBrownstien- that sounds good to me- I think I understand you can run a 30 through a 50, but not a 50 through a 30-- but then you would have to have several more adapters and that wouldn't be good anyway.. Not many spots I can't reach with my cord, but did run into one already.
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03-23-2017, 10:42 AM
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FWIW I have a 50 amp RV and a 50 amp twist on/plug in cord. I have an extra 25 ft 30 amp cord(with 50 amp f/m to 30 amp male adapter)... my EMERGENCY plan is to use the combo into the 30 amp outlet(pole) and limit use... till I venture $150 ish for an extension cord.
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03-23-2017, 11:16 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by B and B
Sounds Illegal and dangerous!!! In any jurisdiction. Please don't tell people to do something that could kill someone.
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The number of postings on this site which describe and/or recommend things which are potentially fatal, whether in electrics, towing practices, or fuel management, especially propane, is morbidly fascinating.
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03-27-2017, 06:25 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CedarCreekWoody
Way too many assumptions being made, by all of Us! I urge the original poster to get someone on site that is more familiar with electrical wiring before he just takes someone's blind advice. Absent breakers in that cord he could be hooking up small appliances to 50 amp circuits! Very dangerous!!
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Excellent point. Great thread. Regardless of the original post, there is good advice here.
Yes, you can plug a 15amp toaster into a 50 amp circuit but without a 15 amp breaker you're playing with fire.
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03-27-2017, 07:00 AM
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(Dry Huunday)
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eastern North Carolina
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If you are really serious about it, you can just buy a temporary junction box and do it properly....
(one of many places that sell them.....)
https://jet.com/product/detail/b7206...a:2&code=PLA15
Specs:
GFCI's meet all new UL standards
3 GFCI protected 20 amp receptacles
High visibility safety yellow color
All outlets are protected with weatherproof covers
Recessed 50 amp inlet and outlet for additional safety
These things are used all the time at various events.
Or, you could always contact a local electrician/electrical shop and they could make you one up to meet your requirements as well as all safety requirements....of course it might be just as pricey as the one on the internet! LOL!
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03-27-2017, 07:08 AM
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Location: Englewood FL
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Wow..you found one. I looked everywhere and was coming to the conclusion that a portable distribution panel was ruled out by code...guess not! But wow really, really pricey. Small sub panel, 2 breakers and a couple of cords...and you can even get waterproof subs. Maybe it is ok for the one you found since it doesn't have cords but has receptacles.
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03-27-2017, 07:16 AM
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(Dry Huunday)
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Location: Eastern North Carolina
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Definitely pricey!!!! I had to modify my search a few times before it popped up...I think the final search was for "50 amp power cord with distribution box"
I first started noticing them at outdoor events when I was the sound engineer (aka Sound monkey) for a local band and had to work with the electricians for all our power requirements.
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