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Site Team - Lou
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Originally Posted by f1100turbo
Basically Lou when u pay for a 30amp site you get every amp u pay for lol.
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If only that were so. It has been my experience that 30 amp breakers are so weak that they trip at around 27 amps.
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08-02-2012, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by herk7769
If only that were so. It has been my experience that 30 amp breakers are so weak that they trip at around 27 amps.
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false advertising then !
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08-02-2012, 04:21 PM
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Site Team - Lou
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Originally Posted by f1100turbo
false advertising then !
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Not really, they may be talking about the PLUG and not the service 
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08-02-2012, 04:25 PM
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true that !
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08-02-2012, 05:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VinceU
Actually the (2) 50 amp and (2) 30 amp plugs are similar but different. They each have an individual NEMA number and purpose.
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The 50 amps are the same plug!
http://www.myrv.us/electric/Pg/50amp_Service.htm
The 30 amp is definitely a different plug it is a 120Vac only plug
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08-02-2012, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by youroo
Are you sure that the Dryer outlet is the (Same) as a 50 RV ? If so no wonder people are frying their units. I though we had (Elec.codes)! Youroo!!  |
People are frying their units by plugging into a 30Amp 120 Vac plug that has been improperly wired for 240Vac.
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08-02-2012, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Acableguy06
People are frying their units by plugging into a 30Amp 120 Vac plug that has been improperly wired for 240Vac.
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Exactly
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08-02-2012, 07:29 PM
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Site Team - Lou
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Dryer Plugs have 2 slanted "line" blades and a BLADE ground and are wired for 220VAC.
RV plugs have 2 slanted "line" blades and a ROUND ground and are wired for 110 VAC.
http://www.stayonline.com/reference-...ght-blade.aspx
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08-02-2012, 07:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by herk7769
Dryer Plugs have 2 slanted "line" blades and a BLADE ground and are wired for 220VAC.
RV plugs have 2 slanted "line" blades and a ROUND ground and are wired for 110 VAC.
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Yes on old 30 amp dryer plugs, that is the confusion on a 30 amp hookup. This is where electricians fail and wire up the wrong thing. All they need to do is read the front of the plug. All plugs should have stamped 120Vac for (RV TT-30) RV plug, or 120/240Vac for (nema 10-30) old dryer plug.
However, New code uses the 50 amp nema 14-50R or 30 amp nema 14-30R depending on what you put in. On ranges they use the 14-50. These nema 14-50's is what 50 amp rv's use.
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08-02-2012, 07:58 PM
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For the OP asking about how 50 amp works. I am sorry we have gotten a little off track to your original question.
This link is a good read and also shows diagrams and how adapters are wired.
Electrical Adapters
Here is another link for those that do not have a line tester, this is a cool little gadget for those that like to DIY things.
50-amp Tester
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08-02-2012, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by herk7769
Yep. I got that lecture at the campground I stayed at over the 4th of July weekend. When we were having power issues and the campground "maintenance guy" saw my Franks unit he tried to accuse me of using a "cheater" to get 50 amp service from a 30 amp site using a "Cheater Box."
When I pointed out that to use that kind of box I would need to have a 50 amp cord somewhere (and I did not) and would need a plug into both the 30 and the 20 amp sockets; not just one in the 30 amp socket. He finally backed off. I had to explain what an autotransformer/line conditioner was as he had never actually seen one before. He HAD seen 50 amp units reserving 30 amp sites to avoid paying for a 50 amp site; then using cheater boxes to steal the extra power.
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So Herk, if I were to use a 50>30amp adapter that you recommeded a week or so ago, would I get in trouble with the campground folks?
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08-02-2012, 08:13 PM
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Site Team - Lou
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Originally Posted by Timex
So Herk, if I were to use a 50>30amp adapter that you recommeded a week or so ago, would I get in trouble with the campground folks?
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No since there is no way for you to use more than the 30 amps you are paying for.
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08-02-2012, 08:30 PM
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I'm with the other folks in the thought, why don't they make all campers 50amps? I guess then we would want 100amps next.
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08-02-2012, 08:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Timex
I'm with the other folks in the thought, why don't they make all campers 50amps? I guess then we would want 100amps next.
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Its amazing older mobile homes used a 50 amp service for many years.  Now they are up to being just like a house. I have a 200 amp panel in mine  Its just crazy how power hungry we are.
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08-02-2012, 08:49 PM
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Its amazing older mobile homes used a 50 amp service for many years. Now they are up to being just like a house. I have a 200 amp panel in mine Its just crazy how power hungry we are. |
That turd in the Oval Office is trying to curb our appetite! My wife works at a coal-fired power plant. They have been told they will have to switch to gas to help save the environment from us.
Then he says we need to use electric cars instead of gas. Where does he think that electricity comes from?
Oh well, November is coming.....
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