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03-26-2015, 04:08 PM
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On the bright-side, I have rosin-core sided.
When you say insulation- you mean the outside white covering that is stripped away?
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Yes. The cover over the metal part of the wire is the insulation.
As far as soldering, what you do is use the iron to heat the metal part of the wire. Then, touch the solder to the hot metal.
I've seen too many people try to put the solder on the iron and then try to get it onto the wire (like painting with a brush). That part don't work.
And, when all else fails, youtube it! 
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03-26-2015, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ependydad
On the bright-side, I have rosin-core sided.
When you say insulation- you mean the outside white covering that is stripped away?
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If that is the soldering iron( in background of pic) you plan on using to solder that ground wire, forget it!! you will need larger watt gun, at least 1000 watt 
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03-26-2015, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaadk
I've seen too many people try to put the solder on the iron and then try to get it onto the wire (like painting with a brush). That part don't work.
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Originally Posted by wana65stang
If that is the soldering iron( in background of pic) you plan on using to solder that ground wire, forget it!! you will need larger watt gun, at least 1000 watt |
And yes, that's the soldering iron. That's actually why I included it in the background- hoping to illicit feedback on it.
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03-26-2015, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaadk
Yes. The cover over the metal part of the wire is the insulation...]
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Not what I meant, the cover on the terminal should be cut off to solder. I was referring to the white plastic insulation on the wire itself.
I agree, the 60W iron is too small.
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03-26-2015, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by wana65stang
If that is the soldering iron( in background of pic) you plan on using to solder that ground wire, forget it!! you will need larger watt gun, at least 1000 watt |
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Originally Posted by OldCoot
I agree, the 60W iron is too small.
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Ok, so I'm back to going to an autoparts store and asking them to re-crimp this wire or buying a whole new one.
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03-27-2015, 07:33 AM
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And please don't use a torch around a battery - it could explode with drastic results
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03-27-2015, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ependydad
Ok, so I'm back to going to an autoparts store and asking them to re-crimp this wire or buying a whole new one.
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OR, just buy a crimping tool and re-crimp it and then buy a 1000W soldering iron and solder it. It's called learning to DIY! That's how we all had to learn. 
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03-27-2015, 07:46 AM
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OR, just buy a crimping tool and re-crimp it and then buy a 1000W soldering iron and solder it. It's called learning to DIY! That's how we all had to learn. |
It's just the cost of tools are killing me! $20 here, $50 there add up...
Plus now I have to pack everything away for either storage or into the camper for our big trip.
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03-27-2015, 07:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ependydad
It's just the cost of tools are killing me! $20 here, $50 there add up...
Plus now I have to pack everything away for either storage or into the camper for our big trip.
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A crimping tool is relatively inexpensive and not any bigger than a pr of pliers and the soldering iron is not large or expensive and the good part is you can use them over and over ... and not depend on someone else, plus, once you buy them, you don't even have to feed them.
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03-27-2015, 07:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldCoot
Not what I meant, the cover on the terminal should be cut off to solder. I was referring to the white plastic insulation on the wire itself.
I agree, the 60W iron is too small.
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03-27-2015, 07:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ependydad
It's just the cost of tools are killing me! $20 here, $50 there add up...
Plus now I have to pack everything away for either storage or into the camper for our big trip.
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Now you know why oc's trailer is filled to the gills!
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03-27-2015, 07:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ependydad
Ok, so I'm back to going to an autoparts store and asking them to re-crimp this wire or buying a whole new one.
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And what happens when the next one pulls out or another wire comes loose when you are out on the road somewhere? I have a small kit with connectors and crimping tool cost 10.00 bucks ( not highest quality but will get you back on the road) and about the size of large hard cover book just in case.
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03-27-2015, 08:02 AM
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Now you know why oc's trailer is filled to the gills!
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And towed with a weak kneed 5.4L Chevy.
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03-27-2015, 08:56 AM
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One thing nobody has mentioned yet.. while you are at it I would check the surrounding wires and connections to see if any of the others are loose as well. Get it all done now to avoid headaches later. IMO
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03-27-2015, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by jkeezer
One thing nobody has mentioned yet.. while you are at it I would check the surrounding wires and connections to see if any of the others are loose as well. Get it all done now to avoid headaches later. IMO
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03-28-2015, 04:39 AM
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See post #9
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03-28-2015, 05:34 AM
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Nothing to be afraid of, this is a 5minute fix
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04-07-2015, 02:36 PM
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Well, I took the simple route and my father-in-law just recrimped the wire onto the connector. It looks like it didn't get a great crimp to start and is holding pretty firmly now. I already had an uber cheap crimping tool. Part of it is my laziness - the camper was at storage and I'd have to bring the camper home in order to have 120v to plug in a soldering iron (which also would need purchased).
If it causes me problems again, I'll get a properly sized soldering iron and fix them up right.
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04-07-2015, 02:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ependydad
Well, I took the simple route and my father-in-law just recrimped the wire onto the connector. It looks like it didn't get a great crimp to start and is holding pretty firmly now. I already had an uber cheap crimping tool. Part of it is my laziness - the camper was at storage and I'd have to bring the camper home in order to have 120v to plug in a soldering iron (which also would need purchased).
If it causes me problems again, I'll get a properly sized soldering iron and fix them up right.
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If you use the proper crimping tool and properly prepare the wire by stripping the right amount of insulation off of it,you should not need to do any soldering.
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04-08-2015, 05:44 AM
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I respectfully disagree with the above statement. Soldering in effect "tins" the wire. . Which gives MUCH greater resistance to corrosion. When I use tinned wire on marine electrical I can fix it and forget about it.
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