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03-26-2015, 01:08 AM
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(-) battery cable pulled out
How do I fix this? This white wire goes from the battery to the negative ground on the camper wall.
Here it is out:
Here is me holding it back in so my 12v would work after j disconnected from the truck:
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03-26-2015, 03:52 AM
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More info please: Did it pull out because there wasn't enough slack in the wire or was it yanked out? How is it attached to the wall; soldered or with a nut? Is that blue fitting a crimp type fitting?
If that is a crimp fitting and there is enough slack in the wire to get back in there, you can use pliers to force the crimp open a little and then add a little solder to the fitting. If it is just held on with a nut, then get a new crimp fitting and maybe a little solder or heat shrink tubing over it.
Good luck,
Don
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03-26-2015, 04:45 AM
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Thats a nylon insulated crimp lug aka.StaCon. Get yourself a crimper from just about any store that has hardware and some lugs as you may need another at a later date so get a variety. Remove the bolt to the stacked crimps, match the old one to a new crime, insert wire into the new crimp, place crimp into tool and squeeze the handle. Re-install. Really is that simple. Get the tool and crimp lugs as you'll likely need one in the future for something else.
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03-26-2015, 05:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RPAspey
Thats a nylon insulated crimp lug aka.StaCon. Get yourself a crimper from just about any store that has hardware and some lugs as you may need another at a later date so get a variety. Remove the bolt to the stacked crimps, match the old one to a new crime, insert wire into the new crimp, place crimp into tool and squeeze the handle. Re-install. Really is that simple. Get the tool and crimp lugs as you'll likely need one in the future for something else.
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03-26-2015, 06:11 AM
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03-26-2015, 07:44 AM
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First, here is what the second picture should have been:
Second, sounds like this isn't hard if I have the right tool.
Third, I am not sure when it came out. My bet is that it came out when I last installed my battery; as I was lowering it, the cable got under the battery and pulled it down. I didn't think anything of it at the time.
It is connected to the wall with a screw- I'm guessing a self-tapping one. Looks like there are 4 or 5 different cables grounding at that same spot.
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03-26-2015, 11:55 AM
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This link will give you the items you need.
Ratcheting Crimping Tool
Cheaper crimpers will make cheap crimps that eventually fall apart. This is a modest one that will serve occasional needs well.
I'm also looking at where all those wires come together and thinking you need a cleaner solution. Something like this bus bar would help keep things orderly and traceable in the future and give you a solid connection to the coach for each wire.
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03-26-2015, 12:05 PM
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My 2014 CC 29RE had same problem....FR did not crimp the terminal at factory....I took it off and went to my local electrical Co and they crimped it properly and soldered the cable before hand!!!.....QC @ FR??????? j
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03-26-2015, 12:13 PM
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I would remove all 3 or 4 of them, remove the plastic sleeve and solder them. The plastic sleeve in that location does nothing.
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03-26-2015, 01:54 PM
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I had a similar issue I use vice grips, I'd crimp then move it to another spot and crimp again. Also an auto parts store should be able to do that since they make up battery cables.
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03-26-2015, 02:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edcronin01
I had a similar issue I use vice grips, I'd crimp then move it to another spot and crimp again. Also an auto parts store should be able to do that since they make up battery cables.
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Vice grips or pliers might be a temporary fix,but they only crimp 2 sides of the connection.
The proper crimp tool crimps the connection 360 degrees.
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03-26-2015, 02:43 PM
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I would say the same as the others with one addition, slip a piece of shrink tube over the wire solder the end on the wire then pull the shrink tube down over the soldered wire after it has cooled. Us a lighter very carefully to shrink the tube be careful not to melt a hole in it.
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03-26-2015, 03:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mark0224
I would say the same as the others with one addition, slip a piece of shrink tube over the wire solder the end on the wire then pull the shrink tube down over the soldered wire after it has cooled. Us a lighter very carefully to shrink the tube be careful not to melt a hole in it.
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What good will the shrink tube do with the bolt exposed they all connect to?
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03-26-2015, 03:08 PM
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I'd remove the plastic crap to and solder.
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03-26-2015, 03:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TURBS
I'd remove the plastic crap to and solder.
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So, here's the deal with that... I own a soldering iron but I've literally never soldered.
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03-26-2015, 03:13 PM
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More or less a neatness and no sharp edges.
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03-26-2015, 03:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ependydad
So, here's the deal with that... I own a soldering iron but I've literally never soldered.
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No time like the present to learn. Get some rosin core solder and start teaching yourself. DO NOT GET ACID CORE for electrical work. Heat the terminal and flow the solder into the end of the wires until it wicks to the insulation. Do not melt the insulation, might want a wet rag to immediately cool the connection and insulation.
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03-26-2015, 03:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ependydad
So, here's the deal with that... I own a soldering iron but I've literally never soldered.
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I used to hate soldering.
After doing quite a bit at work I actually do not mind it and actually prefer to do it that way then another method even if it takes longer.
Biggest key in my mind is to make sure you've heated the wire and connection well before a ply solder.
Some times a mini butane torch works better.
Practice a bit .
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03-26-2015, 03:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldCoot
No time like the present to learn. Get some rosin core solder and start teaching yourself. DO NOT GET ACID CORE for electrical work. Heat the terminal and flow the solder into the end of the wires until it wicks to the insulation. Do not melt the insulation, might want a wet rag to immediately cool the connection and insulation.
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On the bright-side, I have rosin-core sided.
When you say insulation- you mean the outside white covering that is stripped away?
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03-26-2015, 03:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TURBS
Biggest key in my mind is to make sure you've heated the wire and connection well before a ply solder.
Some times a mini butane torch works better.
Practice a bit .
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Don't own a torch...
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