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Old 07-17-2012, 12:53 PM   #11
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"Butter Bar" at the time.

There is no "rank" among Lieutenants....
We were all the slime of the earth and lower in the pecking order than Sergeants.
They just had to call us "Sir" when they told us we did not know squat...
I do not come with a long military background, but having worked 4 years as an Air Reserve Technican (ART) I do know that the AF E7,8, and 9 enlisted do carry a lot of clout and also have a great amount of responsibility.
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Old 07-17-2012, 01:13 PM   #12
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While I could have been a "Butter Bar" at the time, I now believe I was a 1LT.

It really does not matter since anyone will tell you there is no "rank" among Lieutenants.... We were all the slime of the earth and lower in the pecking order than Sergeants. They just had to call us "Sir" when they told us we did not know squat...

I made "First" in January 1975 and transferred from the 38th TAS (the patch I am wearing in this photo taken at Lajes AB, Azores) to the 37th TAS at Langley AFB in November of 1975.

I also apologize for Hijacking the thread.
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Old 07-17-2012, 01:41 PM   #13
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It would be much easier to add in an additional turn light on the side than try to use whats there.

Keep it low on the skirting ahead of slide if you gave one.

Run the wire down the skirting on the inside then up to your lightning junction box.
If you use an led turn marker that would be sweet.

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Not as easy as you think since you would need a double filament bulb like your tail light to do it. Replacing your marker lights with tail lights and running additional wiring to run the turn signals would be required.
Two filament bulbs are not necessary. However, you would need both positive and ground wires from the light. Which will need rewired anyway.

You connect one of the leads from the light to the parking light wire and the other to the turn signal wire. (no ground at the light)

This is how you wire those bumper guide rods on trucks, they only have single filament bulbs (usually 194's) in them. you can wire them for parking only, turn only, or both.
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Old 07-17-2012, 02:31 PM   #15
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Two filament bulbs are not necessary. However, you would need both positive and ground wires from the light. Which will need rewired anyway.

You connect one of the leads from the light to the parking light wire and the other to the turn signal wire. (no ground at the light)

This is how you wire those bumper guide rods on trucks, they only have single filament bulbs (usually 194's) in them. you can wire them for parking only, turn only, or both.
So, the turn signal wire is a ground when not "on"?
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So, the turn signal wire is a ground when not "on"?
Yes, then the ground is canceled when the turn signal is on resulting in a flashing light opposite from the turn signal flash.
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Yes, then the ground is canceled when the turn signal is on resulting in a flashing light opposite from the turn signal flash.
OK, I think I get it.

The parking lights are "on" as they find their ground through the "Off" turn signal

When the turn signal turns "ON" 12 volts show up on the ground and the light turns "OFF" so that the parking light "blinks"; just opposite to the tail lights.

So to make this work, a wire must be run from the appropriate tail light wire to the "former" ground wire on each marker bulb socket.

Is that right? So does the turn signal find a ground through the parking lights when they are "off"?
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OK, I think I get it.

The parking lights are "on" as they find their ground through the "Off" turn signal

When the turn signal turns "ON" 12 volts show up on the ground and the light turns "OFF" so that the parking light "blinks"; just opposite to the tail lights.

So to make this work, a wire must be run from the appropriate tail light wire to the "former" ground wire on each marker bulb socket.

Is that right? So does the turn signal find a ground through the parking lights when they are "off"?
Correct...one wrench to keep in mind is if the light is self grounding or wire grounded. This would not be a question on a fiberglass TT.
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Martin73 /turning side markers into turn signals. I was wondering about my gtown, Just mount another side clearance light assy to rv, then running a wire to the rear signal wires?
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It would be much easier to add in an additional turn light on the side than try to use whats there.

Keep it low on the skirting ahead of slide if you gave one.

Run the wire down the skirting on the inside then up to your lightning junction box.
If you use an led turn marker that would be sweet.

Ok now I want one, ........
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That sounds like a great way to do it and avoiding a lot of work in the process.

Let us know how your mod works.
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