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Old 06-15-2019, 09:02 PM   #1
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Electric problem with outlet

Power outlet problem. No power on driver side outlets if i can say (4 outlets). Side passenger (kitchen) they all work. Breaker check, the ddft from the bathroom ok. I check with tester no current. In principle they are all related to the ddft in bathroom. Same thing if i am on electric power or generator.

Some one have a electric diagram.?

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Old 06-15-2019, 09:09 PM   #2
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Sounds like a GFCI receptacle has tripped. Find it and check. Sometimes can be in a not so obvious location. Also check for loose wire at a breaker in the panel. If still no luck, I've seen improperly connected wires at the rear of an RV receptacle. Involves pulling them out one by one for inspection. Easy to do tho.
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Old 06-15-2019, 09:22 PM   #3
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Ok tanks, i check. But last week everything was working fine.
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30a or 50a shore power?
Are you using a power adapter? (commonly called a dogbone)
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30a or 50a shore power?
Are you using a power adapter? (commonly called a dogbone)
I am on 30 amp, and when i use dogbone for 15 amp, same thing no power on these outlets
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Power outlet problem. No power on driver side outlets if i can say (4 outlets). Side passenger (kitchen) they all work. Breaker check, the ddft from the bathroom ok. I check with tester no current. In principle they are all related to the ddft in bathroom. Same thing if i am on electric power or generator.

Some one have a electric diagram.?

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As Myredracer stated, you may possibly have a GFCI tripped, and then the outlets that are wired in succession after it will not work.


I'm not following your terminology on a ddft above. Can you explain what this is?
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As Myredracer stated, you may possibly have a GFCI tripped, and then the outlets that are wired in succession after it will not work.


I'm not following your terminology on a ddft above. Can you explain what this is?
Sorry ddrt is in french for GFCI but i found only one GFCI in the motorhome
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This link may help also, as it explains the RV's GFCI outlet.


http://www.sundancecustomrv.com/GFI%...0explained.pdf
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Sorry ddrt is in french for GFCI but i found only one GFCI in the motorhome

Thanks, you would think me being from Louisiana, I may have known the French thing. LOL



Many just actually have one GFCI, but there can be more than one too.


Are you also saying that the GFCI in the bathroom does not have power when you checked with the tester? Have you tried to manually reset this GFCI.
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Thanks, you would think me being from Louisiana, I may have known the French thing. LOL



Many just actually have one GFCI, but there can be more than one too.


Are you also saying that the GFCI in the bathroom does not have power when you checked with the tester? Have you tried to manually reset this GFCI.
Yes the GFCI in the bathroom have power, i check with the tester and power in and out. And i don’t found another GFCI outlet. really weird. moreover the breaker never jumped and at first sight no short circuit, it happened suddenly
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Yes the GFCI in the bathroom have power, i check with the tester and power in and out. And i don’t found another GFCI outlet. really weird. moreover the breaker never jumped and at first sight no short circuit, it happened suddenly

Sometimes when a circuit breaker trips, it may not be obvious to the naked eye. It's best to turn it fully off and then back on.


Can you post a pic of your RV's circuit breakers. This may tell the tale if you possibly have two different circuits to your outlets. Sometimes you may see these circuits labeled as GFCI and General
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If the GFCI has power, but the downstream outlets don't, I'd check the wiring on the GFCI. Sounds like a loose wire.
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Ok i check all my outlet, my fridge, i don’t like what i see...,
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Yeah, those RV "speed outlets" are crap. Replace it with an electrical box and a real duplex outlet.

HOWEVER: If that's your fridge outlet, that wouldn't/shouldn't be causing your other outlet issues. Your fridge outlet has it's own breaker, per your pic in post #12.

On the other hand, it appears that you have 3 sets of wires, implying that there's at least one more outlet daisy-chained from that one. If so, it's not going to be GFCI protected.

Did you specifically check the wiring on the GFCI outlet?
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I'm not seeing any CB for the general purpose outlets which leaves me to believe they are paralleled off of another circuit. What I am seeing is residue of arcing and oxidation on the wires at the fridge outlet. That may very well be the problem, i.e. loose connections.
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My TV stopped working in our 2014 Rockwood Signature Ultra Light. I traced it back to the GFIC in the kitchen. I replaced the GFIC and it was all good to go. The difference in my situation is that the GFIC outlet did not work either, unlike yours.
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I'm not seeing any CB for the general purpose outlets which leaves me to believe they are paralleled off of another circuit. What I am seeing is residue of arcing and oxidation on the wires at the fridge outlet. That may very well be the problem, i.e. loose connections.
He has a "GFI" circuit breaker. That should get his GFCI and anything daisy chained off of it.

I'm surprised there's something off the fridge outlet.
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Yeah, those RV "speed outlets" are crap. Replace it with an electrical box and a real duplex outlet.
I hate to have to disagree, but as an EE, I disagree. The problem is more to do with the factories that do a poor job of "punching down" the wires and not using the correct tool for the SCD receptacles. Without going into detail, installing a residential receptacle isn't a guarantee it will be better.

Looking at the photos above, it's clear that someone has worked on the receptacle in the past. You can see indentations on one of the neutral wires. Re-using an SCD receptacle can be problematic, especially if the correct tool is not used which is quite expensive.

Also in the photo, it looks like two of the wires were only punched down onto one of the stabs instead of both. That means the current carrying ability is reduced to 1/2. Not good!

Also, when connecting three romex cables to an SCD receptacle, one pair of cables needs to be an in-line connection as in the instructions below. Each stab/prong can only have TWO conductors punched down into it.

Whoever installed this receptacle had no idea how to do it properly. Perhaps an extra receptacle was added by a previous owner? Good thing a fire didn't happen.

Installation instructions from Slater can be found here: https://mobilehomepartsstore.com/Mer...structions.pdf
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Problem solved, it was well the outlet of the refrigerator. The whole works now. Replace it with an outside plug. Thank you for your help😄😄👍🏻
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