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Old 04-02-2014, 11:20 AM   #11
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I am going to get a 30 Amp PI this weekend before my 1st trip. Just cant decide if i want the HW or PT. Probably going with the portable since I don't know how to install it myself and probably can't get an appt to have someone else install it in time for my trip.

Am I crazy for not going HW? I dont see many differences on the PI website but maybe i missed something.
In two words - probably not.

I took a look at the wiring in our unit and realized I am NOT a master electrician! The 50AMP shore power plug is in the back shoreside corner of our unit, and I that to the HW unit I was going to have to do some serious mods (that were far beyond my ability!)

Instead, I opted for the PT (and a good lock!) Someone also suggested a cable lock to wrap around the unit as added security
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Old 04-02-2014, 12:03 PM   #12
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I am going to get a 30 Amp PI this weekend before my 1st trip. Just cant decide if i want the HW or PT. Probably going with the portable since I don't know how to install it myself and probably can't get an appt to have someone else install it in time for my trip.

Am I crazy for not going HW? I dont see many differences on the PI website but maybe i missed something.
I went with the hardwired version because I didn't want one more thing to lug around. I also wanted the digital readout in the camper so my wife would have something easy to read and know if she could turn on more appliances without tripping the breaker. I personally think just about anyone should be able to follow the directions and install one. If you have a pair of wire strippers and a phillips screwdriver, you're set (I think you'll need a #1 phillips and a #2, IIRC). Cut the cord coming into the camper, strip a few wires and screw them down. It is really pretty straight-forward. The main thing is to make SURE that you don't nick any wires when stripping the outer insulation and make sure you don't have any straggling wire strands not completely in the block when you screw them down. I've worked in mobile electronics for years and done some wiring, so maybe it's harder for many than it seems???
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Old 04-02-2014, 12:07 PM   #13
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They are not going to offer the EMS, they make too much money off replacement parts and labor when you fry the electronics.....
I could see a dealer not wanting to install for this reason, but not really the manufacturers. It would be a win-win for them. The manufacturers probably have many warranty claims on items they have to foot the bill on because of electrical issues and an EMS would monitor for and protect from them.
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Old 04-02-2014, 03:02 PM   #14
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I installed mine behind the power distribution panel. (ALL POWER OFF) I pulled the panel off the wall and disconnected the main feeders coming into the panel, 2 feeders each on there own 50 amp breaker, a neutral tied to the neutral bar and a ground. Connected these to the HWEMS line side, bought 3' of #6 3wire with ground and come out the other end of the EMS looping the load coils as directed. All toll 4 wires to connect X 3 different places. Mine is located just above the converter, plenty of room and didn't cut any wire. About 1 1/2 hour work, start to finish including getting wire from Home Depot. I am not an electrician.
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thanks for the replies. besides the separate display and better theft prevention because it is out of sight, what are the other advantages over the portable?
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Old 04-02-2014, 03:50 PM   #16
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thanks for the replies. besides the separate display and better theft prevention because it is out of sight, what are the other advantages over the portable?
Being out of the elements. Call me paranoid but I went with the portable because if anything does blow I want it as far away from our camper as possible.

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thanks for the replies. besides the separate display and better theft prevention because it is out of sight, what are the other advantages over the portable?
One less thing that I have to keep up with
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Wow... Now that I see that blown out unit, how many times have people seen this on an internal one? It looks like it was hit by lightning...
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Wow... Now that I see that blown out unit, how many times have people seen this on an internal one? It looks like it was hit by lightning...
It looks like someone threw it in the fire.

Upon further examination- I don't see any charring on the male prongs.
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