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Old 01-16-2013, 02:51 PM   #11
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Jeep, I need to add that you will have to learn how to manage power, especially with a 30 amp trailer. You are correct, that you cannot run lot's of things at the same time with out exceeding your breaker(s) capacity.

Besides your air-conditioner, things that make heat are your biggest energy consumers. Electric heaters, hot water heaters, toasters, coffee pots, hair dryers, microwaves, etc. are good examples.

A lot of people will run an extension cord from the camp pedestal into their trailer, to run some things off of, which will take some of the load off of your trailers 30 amp.
I thought about this, which is basically what got me to thinking about just converting to 50 amp. same result, 50 amp into the house. I have not looked hard into the costs of conversion, but are there any downsides other than cost?
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:03 PM   #12
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Other than cost, no. I think you should make it real clear that this is camping and you have 30A to work with and not 200A like at home. Man up and get things straightened out over there.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:30 PM   #13
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I have not looked hard into the costs of conversion, but are there any downsides other than cost?
You could possibly also have to wire new individual circuits, depending on how they are setup.

What I mean is, suppose the microwave and the plug for the coffee maker are on the same circuit/breaker. You are still going to be limited to what that individual circuit/breaker can run....irregardless if you have 50 or 30 amp. If that circuit trips on say a 15 amp breaker while using 30 amp, it would still trip on a 15 amp breaker using 50amp.......unless re-wired differently to separate the coffee maker from the microwave running on the same circuit.

You stated in the opening post that you were tripping several breakers, which means you are overloading several different wire circuits.

You could also have to change the wire sizes out, if you decided to run a bigger breaker on each circuit. You wiring should be sized (and probably is) in your trailer for the size breaker/circuit that it is currently configured for.

I'm sure that Herk will be able to explain it better.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:52 PM   #14
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You'd need a new 50 amp service center/ converter as well.


Around 300.00 !
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:00 PM   #15
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Jeep, I need to add that you will have to learn how to manage power, especially with a 30 amp trailer. You are correct, that you cannot run lot's of things at the same time with out exceeding your breaker(s) capacity.

Besides your air-conditioner, things that make heat are your biggest energy consumers. Electric heaters, hot water heaters, toasters, coffee pots, hair dryers, microwaves, etc. are good examples.

A lot of people will run an extension cord from the camp pedestals 120 (20 amp) outlet into their trailer, to run some things off of (like your coffee maker), which will take some of the load off of your trailers 30 amp.
That may not be a good idea. It is possible that there is only a single 30 amp line serving the pedestal. Pulling 50 amps could overload it.

You could take a lesson from the boondockers on ways to save power.

Teach the family to take shorter (navy style) showers. Get a drip coffee maker that runs on propane or sits on the stove top. Coleman makes both types. Switch your most frequently used lights to LEDs. Turn off your converter when you are using a lot of other power. Your battery will last a while without it.

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You could possibly also have to wire new individual circuits, depending on how they are setup.
I agree, in our HTT, everything is on one leg of the 30A circuit except the AC. If you setup is like mine, you only have 15A to work with (coffee, microwave, hot water heater, TV, lights, bathroom outlet, etc.).
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You'd need a new 50 amp service center/ converter as well.


Around 300.00 !
Plus new 50 AMP supply cord $150.00 Youroo!!
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:35 PM   #18
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Plus a new plug at TT. New wiring from plug to converter. This is a big job that could cost over $1000 before you are done. Turn off fireplace and just run WH on gas. You could leave WH on electric all night and water would be hot in morning. Turn off electric and run on gas only when taking showers. The recovery time might be a bit longer but you will stop blowing breakers. If you trip the breaker too ofter they will become weak and trip at a lower draw.
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turn ur hw heater off when u aren't using it. turn it on abt 30 min before a shower and u should b ok. u have the same size element that i do in mine and mine produces hw within 30 min. or less.
50 amp may be ur option though. it will cost but the only changes inside is splitting the wiring between the two circuits (and the entrance cable up to the box). everything now plugged in should work fine. don't see u having to modify anything beyond the breaker box (unless u have some circuits overloaded...multiple breakers tripping makes me wonder abt that).
another option is the "green acres" method: assign numbers iaw amprage (from one of the links above) then choose a number that u can't exceed.

even with 50amp, there will still be parks that the only thing available is 30. we camp at a few. we generally run the a/c, hw heater, frig, tv, converter. usually something has to give if we try to run the microwave. might have to put the a/c on fan and/or turn the hw heater off.

50 amp is two 50 amp circuits compared to one 30 amp service.
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Then we try to make coffee and blow a breaker.
My peculator has never blown a breaker.
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