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Old 01-16-2013, 09:51 PM   #41
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If your 15 amp breaker in the house was to fail you would not be drawing 200 amp. If you are on a 50 amp service and your 30 amp main breaker did not trip you are then able to put up to 50 amps on the main wire of the TT.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:55 PM   #42
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i may be getting ready to answer why not the change the 30 amp main in the trailer to 50 A. the main protects the buss in the breaker box. the individual breakers in the box protect the individual wires they are assigned to.

my other suggestion to change out the cable and the 50 amp main may not work if the breaker box (buss) isn't rated above 30A. it may be worth a check but i suspect the manufacture has this sized right.

the voltage drops in the original cable and connections isn't going to be improved by adding another connection unless the problem is in the 30 amp socket at the pedistal. ur still contending with the same supply voltage with more resistance (2 more connections by adding the adapter).

adapting from 50 a to 30 a is a way to get around a pedestal breaker tripping and the main in the trailer not.
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:57 PM   #43
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Ok, if the impossible happens, call your insurance and make a claim, then your lawyer to handle the claim about breaker failing (which is not going to fail in the closed position), then to camco for offering an adapter, the campground for having electric......
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:13 PM   #44
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i'm thinking the 50 amp at the pedestal would trip before u got enough for a fire. i believe u can put 30a thru #12, i don't know what u can put thru 10. these numbers may be in free space which u don't have in a cable.

personally, i wouldn't have a problem adapting from 50 to 30. it wouldn't keep me awake at night. Several yrs ago, i camped in a park in Ky that only offered 50 and 20. the campground had adapters for use. i always thought that if they offered 50 there would be a 30 in there as well. that was a first.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:19 PM   #45
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14 gauge =15 amp
12. =20 amp
10. =30 amp
8. =40 amp
6. =60 amp

This is the american wire gauge system-Awg, straight from the book
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:31 PM   #46
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14 gauge =15 amp
12. =20 amp
10. =30 amp
8. =40 amp
6. =60 amp

This is the american wire gauge system-Awg, straight from the book
agree.
that is below what the wire is capable of. that overload factor is why i wouldn't be concerned abt the remote possibility that i could overload the wire outside. even though the inside main is not meant to protect the outside cable, it would in most cases. i wouldn't even think of putting too large a breaker on one of the inside circuits.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:58 PM   #47
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You can purchase a 50 to 30 amp adapter so you can use a CG that does not have 30 amp service. They are not to be used to try to get extra power to the TT when you are overloading the draw. The gauge of wire used to go from the plug on the side of the TT to the control panel will be the weak link in this whole setup.
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:03 PM   #48
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I done the 50A conversion on my last trailer. Most expensive part was the cord and that was maybe $120-$140. Actually, the most expensive part was the new hardwired Surge Guard. I used the original converter, as I was not needing anymore DC power, so no need to replace it. There's pics and details in the link in my sig. I'd say I was maybe at $500 including the surge guard, cord, 50A panel, and new hatch door.
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:42 PM   #49
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After reading this post I realized I do not know where my breakers are at. If I were to trip the breaker, I would not know where to even look. 2012 XLR 27 HFS. During the walk through no mention was made and nothing in the manual.

Thanks, sorry if this is a off the topic
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Old 01-17-2013, 06:09 AM   #50
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On my Trailer the fireplace, water heater and GFI are on their own breakers. The first thing I would do is put a amp probe on each and see what they are pulling each one. I could see plugging in a coffee maker and hair drier and a space heater to trip your GFI that's all 1 breaker. Breakers get weak and wires get loose. If you are not tripping the 30 amp main it is not a power problem coming in to the unit. I use to trip my AC breaker when I put the fan on high. Changed the breaker and the problem was solved. The real problem is finding out what is wired were. I tried to get a wiring diagram from FR and they said they do not have one, it depends on who installed it on the line when being made. Changing to 50 amp will not help if you are not tripping the main. I run a coffee maker, water heater and fireplace and never trip and my main is 30 amp.
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