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10-19-2014, 08:02 PM
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Fireplace shuts off when using microwave
No real question here, unless someone has already experienced this and found a fix. This phenomenon just came to light during the Smokie Mountain Jamboree Rally, because it was the first time this replacement fireplace was used. The fireplace works just fine, but if the microwave is started, something trips in the fireplace circuitry and it shuts off. It acts like a over temperature sensor cause it takes some time before it will work again. The fireplace is supposed to be on its own breaker and no breakers trip so this problem will take a little effort to troubleshoot. One more thing to do when we get home.
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10-19-2014, 08:06 PM
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didn't happen with last fireplace? Same fireplace make/model?
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10-20-2014, 02:00 AM
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Our Laredo was set up with a kill switch to disable the microwave when using fireplace....kind of annoying but it was only 30amp setup
Switch was on wall right next to fireplace so you could not forget
New Crusader has 50amp and we can use everything at same time now - still have to get used to not thinking about that switch
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10-20-2014, 06:07 AM
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My 2015 Windjammer 3008 is doing the same thing. Going to dealer in a couple of weeks and hope to find out why.
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10-20-2014, 09:17 AM
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probably pulling more load than 30 amps I have to shut off fireplace before starting microwave or fireplace will shut off
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10-20-2014, 02:21 PM
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Dazed & Confused
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It is supposed to and the relay that does it is mounted in the space behind the converter. (In a 3008W anyway.) A couple of minutes after the microwave shuts off, you can hear the relay reset with a click. Running both the microwave and the fireplace would put the amp load very near 30 amps and by code a circuit can only be loaded intentionally to 80% continuous load.
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10-22-2014, 11:50 AM
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I have a 2014 320bhds and had same problem. Found out the genius that wired the camper at the factory put the microwave and fireplace on the same circuit.
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10-22-2014, 05:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MEHoffman
It is supposed to and the relay that does it is mounted in the space behind the converter. (In a 3008W anyway.) A couple of minutes after the microwave shuts off, you can hear the relay reset with a click. Running both the microwave and the fireplace would put the amp load very near 30 amps and by code a circuit can only be loaded intentionally to 80% continuous load.
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I guess that makes sense, but I would like to determine how the relay is wired and what it is monitoring because only the fireplace shuts off. The fireplace draws 6 amp on low and the microwave draws 15 amp. If it is monitoring the total draw at the main that is close to 80%. The water heater draws 11 amp so I will have to check what the relay does if the water heater is heating while the microwave is running cause that would be over the allowed 80%.
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10-22-2014, 05:44 PM
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Dazed & Confused
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I am also "Iowa born" and bred. I use the name Iowachild after this poem on the Tractorbynet.com forum. BTW I am only guessing the code is why they did that, I could be wrong, but the relay is mounted behind my converter and I just had to figure out what it did!
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02-19-2015, 07:01 PM
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We also have a 2014 FR Flagstaff 5th wheel 8528IKWS and it does exactly the same thng. There is a separate breaker labelled "Microwave" but none labelled "Fireplace" so with only 30 amp hook-up they can only use so much AC at any given time and the explanation about the relay to defeat the fireplace upon using the microwave makes sense. At least it is self resetting!
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02-19-2015, 07:06 PM
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This is designed to work this way. If you add the water heater 11 and microwave 12 to 15 that 80% load factor. I prefer the fireplace shutting off than having to reset my pole breaker outside in the rain.
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02-19-2015, 07:13 PM
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Well they are looking into it because we checked out 3 other identical units and the fireplace stayed on when we turned on the microwave.
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02-19-2015, 07:23 PM
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Might be a different fireplace or mod on the assembly line. A quick call to Forest River would confirm.
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02-19-2015, 07:25 PM
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Yeah might need to do that. It's at the dealer now for warranty work which is awesome with all the snow we have.
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02-19-2015, 07:28 PM
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I hear you. We have year round campsites here but it is -22/-38 C with windchill right now so just too cold for camping.
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02-19-2015, 07:29 PM
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Yeah and I'm second guessing my saying yes to working tonight with windchill going to 31 below. Yikes
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02-19-2015, 07:35 PM
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My Windjammer has a toggle switch next to the front door, that allows you to choose between the fireplace or microwave. I have 30 amp service. Its a bit of a pain but workable.
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