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05-26-2013, 07:16 PM
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Heated mattresses on power inverter?
I'm sure that someone has asked this but haven't found it when searching.
DW and I just saw the new Roo 23ikss on FR and love it! Thinking about making the trade from our 2012 HW277. Have read that many of you install an inverter to power tv's and such when dry camping. Is anyone running their heated mattresses or blankets off an inverter? You know- for roughing it? Was thinking of maybe a 1500 or 2k powered by 2 group 24's. maybe an occasional movie.
Just was thinking ahead so I'm ready if the Roo shows up in front of the house one day 😜
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05-26-2013, 07:54 PM
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what's the power usage off the tag of your electric blanket or heated mattress say? that will give you the power it needs. generally heated blankets are low amp draw and very efficient appliances...
also be aware, some appliances require pure sine wave inverters and may get damage or will not work with modified sine wave inverters.
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05-27-2013, 08:57 AM
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If you have a pure sine wave inverter, there will be no problem with a blanket or mattress pad. With one exception, modern blankets with digital controls will not work with modified sine wave inverters. Old blankets with analog controls will work with MSW inverters, but they are hard to find.
The Soft Heat blanket has its own (ac to dc) power supply and actually runs on 18 vdc. It is a little more expensive than other blankets, but is so nice that I got a second one to use at home. See Best Electric Blankets Reviews | Review Soft Heat Low Voltage
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05-27-2013, 11:43 AM
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The heated mattresses draw about 150 watts I believe? And your unit has 2 so that is 300 watts. 2400 watts total for an 8 hour night. So, without running anything else, P=I x E, it would take 200amp/hrs of battery to run your mattresses.
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05-27-2013, 11:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChooChooMan74
The heated mattresses draw about 150 watts I believe? And your unit has 2 so that is 300 watts. 2400 watts total for an 8 hour night. So, without running anything else, P=I x E, it would take 200amp/hrs of battery to run your mattresses.
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think you got a typo...
watts = amps * volts.
so 2400 watts = amps * 120 volts
so amps is 20Ah needed...
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05-27-2013, 12:04 PM
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Quote:
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think you got a typo...
watts = amps * volts.
so 2400 watts = amps * 120 volts
so amps is 20Ah needed...
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So...if your calculations are correct, then 2 70ah batteries will keep me above the 50% threshold on the batteries. But that also doesn't include the power hungry furnace. Hmmm...
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05-27-2013, 12:26 PM
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Quote:
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So...if your calculations are correct, then 2 70ah batteries will keep me above the 50% threshold on the batteries. But that also doesn't include the power hungry furnace. Hmmm...
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2 12volt 70ah batteries? wired in parallel, that gives you 140ah of total capacity, 50% depth of discharge usage at 70ah before serious recharging required.
yes, other appliances and devices will play into your daily/nightly drain as well (lights, co2 monitor, propane monitor, lots of little things sipping on the juice that you aren't aware of...)
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05-27-2013, 12:35 PM
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Well, at least it's possible. Just will have run the genny for most the next day. Got a Honda 2000 so at least it's quiet. But guess I should by the trailer first!
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05-27-2013, 12:37 PM
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Quote:
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Well, at least it's possible. Just will have run the genny for most the next day. Got a Honda 2000 so at least it's quiet. But guess I should by the trailer first!
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LOL, that would help!
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05-27-2013, 01:02 PM
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Thanks everyone for your answers.
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05-27-2013, 01:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Himcules
think you got a typo...
watts = amps * volts.
so 2400 watts = amps * 120 volts
so amps is 20Ah needed...
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12 Volt Batteries X 200 amps equals 2400 watts
P (Power in terms of Watts) = I (Amperage) x E (Voltage)
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05-27-2013, 01:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HONDAMAN174
So...if your calculations are correct, then 2 70ah batteries will keep me above the 50% threshold on the batteries. But that also doesn't include the power hungry furnace. Hmmm...
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2 70ah batteries won't do it, as stated, he based it on 120v batteries. You batteries are 12 volts, so you need 200ah just for the mattresses. You would definitely need at least 4 220ah golf cart batteries in my opinion.
Just remember, it take 20 amps at 120v to make 2400 watts, but it takes 200 amps at 12v to make 2400 watts.
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05-27-2013, 01:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChooChooMan74
12 Volt Batteries X 200 amps equals 2400 watts
P (Power in terms of Watts) = I (Amperage) x E (Voltage)
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do all calculations need to be converted back to 12volt whenever an inverter is used?
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05-27-2013, 01:47 PM
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Quote:
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do all calculations need to be converted back to 12volt whenever an inverter is used?
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Yes. Watts is watts, no matter if it is 12 volts or 120 volts. That is the amount of power something takes. And, there are inverter inefficiencies that were not calculated in. But, I didn't count that, because after a few hours, I bet he would put his heated mattress down to 1/2, unless, he is camping in below freezing temperatures.
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05-27-2013, 03:53 PM
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i've never seen any post about someone doing this.
without a large battery bank, i don't think you could do it for the whole night.
and the furnace drain would add to the problem.
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05-27-2013, 04:18 PM
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But see...this is why I love the forum. When you have an idea and unsure whether it will work, you can ask before spending $$$ and it not working. Still might pick up a 1500 to run a TV/DVD for entertainment.
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05-27-2013, 04:29 PM
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too put it simply ... heat means power in the 12volt world ...
inverters just add confusion to the equasion ...
simple facts ...
the more storage space on-board .. like two large 12volt deep cycles in the 31 size range, or some a 6 volt combination ... the less your in the battery burn-out zone .. which every retailer like to see ....
hey its camping .. yea my wife enjoys the heated matteress ... but if you are off line .. enjoy the surroundings .. and monitor the 12 volt power ..
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11-12-2014, 06:20 PM
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I have RW Windjammer3006W. I plan to power a 70 watt heated mattress pad, while towing. I use an AIMS 180 watt pure sine inverter, plugged into the 12v socket under the TV.
Will this combo work while I tow? Will also run refrig & furnace.
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11-12-2014, 07:45 PM
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Wheww! I think I'll stick with a good pair of insulated long johns and a pair of wool socks. A little coziness with my sweetie won't hurt either.
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11-12-2014, 08:04 PM
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Regardless of what you run on the inverter, running a 1500W inverter at 80% will drain over 100amps per hour from your battery. Two 70 Ahr batteries drawn down to 50%. will not last an hour.
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