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Old 06-25-2012, 02:51 PM   #1
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House batteries charged but not registering?

My 2006 Sunseeker is having a strange issue. When I plug it in the house batteries charge up and I've tested them that they are full, but the indicator lights inside the RV state that they are empty E.

And the fault lights on the Carbon Monoxide as well as low voltage start beeping.

What would be the cause/fix for getting the house batteries to start "talking" to the internal indicator lights?
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Old 06-25-2012, 08:21 PM   #2
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maybe a fuse or breaker tripped somewhere. think there might be one if you follow the positive cable.

also maybe a ground issue?
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Old 06-28-2012, 12:47 AM   #3
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12v fuse box? 2006 sunseeker

can anyone tell me where the fuses/breakers are for the 12v system? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
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Old 06-28-2012, 05:54 AM   #4
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Slow down. There is a real issue here with voltage.

1) A fuse or current limiter would cause NO voltage; not low voltage.

2) To turn on the E or "Low" voltage light a minimum of 6 volts is required.

3) 6 volts is also needed to run the alert function on the CO and Propane detectors.

So, either the OP is not correct and the batteries are in fact dead or there are two six volt batteries in a bank and they are connected wrong.
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Old 06-28-2012, 10:25 AM   #5
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Thanks Herk.. problem is this just started happening

I've tested both house batteries and they are full. The issue is of consistency. One minute the inside indicators will show 4 bars of power and then if I drive it for a few mins, the bars will show E and the C02 low voltage indicator starts beeping. I'm baffled
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Thanks Herk.. problem is this just started happening

I've tested both house batteries and they are full. The issue is of consistency. One minute the inside indicators will show 4 bars of power and then if I drive it for a few mins, the bars will show E and the C02 low voltage indicator starts beeping. I'm baffled
You should be testing for "full" using a chemical battery liquid tester, in SG. Even #of floating indicatiors is more accurate than a 12 volt test. Batteries when defective will decay rapidly after charge, usually one cell is dead or dying and chem test will pick this up. Good luck.
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Don't know HOW many times it needs to be repeated.

When using the "idiot lights" and the "battery" button, 4 bars is NOT FULL.

It is "CHARGING"

C - G - F - L

Stands for CHARGING - GOOD - FAIR - LOW

As long as the voltage of the system is 12.7 volts or higher ( above 100% battery capacity BTW) you will get 4 BARS.

Once it STOPS CHARGING - (voltage dropping BELOW 12.7 volts) you will get 3 BARS - 3 BARS IS "GOOD"

It will stay "GOOD" until the battery drops to "FAIR" (TWO BARS) or about 50% capacity.

When it hits 1 BAR the battery is DEAD and has only enough capacity to keep that little LED lit.

When you have ONE bar it means it is LOW

I believe you might have a loose or corroded wire between the converter and your batteries. It could very well be in the power center itself.

When the wire makes contact with the converter, the idiot lights "see" more than 12.7 volts and you get 4 BARS. When you LOSE contact with the converter you see the REAL battery voltage just over 6 volts (deader than Elvis).


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Thanks Herk.. problem is this just started happening

I've tested both house batteries and they are full. The issue is of consistency. One minute the inside indicators will show 4 bars of power and then if I drive it for a few mins, the bars will show E and the C02 low voltage indicator starts beeping. I'm baffled
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One shorted cell in any of the batteries can cause this condition, you need to check them with a carbon pile amp tester.
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One shorted cell in any of the batteries can cause this condition, you need to check them with a carbon pile amp tester.
This is an excellent point!

A bad battery will act like a dead short to the converter. This high amp draw will yank the converter off line until the converter cools down. Once it does, it reconnects and the cycle will repeat until smoke comes out.
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Thanks herk, i will check mine this weekend i thought the idiot light meant it was fully charged so glad i joined the forum
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