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Old 01-28-2014, 10:52 AM   #11
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I do plan to run fridge & water heater on propane. But, how does the camper know to power the lights, water pump etc from the 12v & not draw on the generator if/when we do flip a light switch or flush the toilet!?
the lights, water pump are ALWAYS 12 volt and are powered from the converter while plugged in...or the batteries when not.....the camper does this automatically....

the only things you can choose to run or not on 12 volt are the water heater and fridge,,

i guess TECHNICALLY they are ALWAYS 12v and the converter provides a charge voltage to the battery while plugged in..and they ONLY run on battery voltage when NOT plugged in....
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:02 AM   #12
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:02 AM   #13
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A few lights and water pump won't draw enough on the generator even if the AC is running. You will be fine......
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Sort of makes sense. Are you thinking that a few lights turned on or occasional flush of the toilet will not draw enough on the 3500/4000 generator to even make a difference or draw it down then?

Otherwise, if I understand correctly...I would need to go to the converter access panel & flip the breaker switches for everything EXCEPT the AC to prevent them (lights, water pump) from drawing on the generator!? But...then the lights & water pump won't function AT ALL would they!?

Ugh...sorry if i am just missing this whole concept.

And back to my original question / concern...is it my understanding that a generator such as the Champion 3500/4000 WILL be sufficient to operate my AC at FULL cooling capacity without fear of damaging it or anything else in the camper!? Although noisy in everyone's opinion...is it a good unit for my situation?
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:07 AM   #15
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I have a 3000w Dometic that I can run my 13.5k A/C, lights, outside fridge (electric only), tv(ac), and a stereo, and the generator ran just fine. If there is too much draw on my generator, it will pop it's breaker. I wouldn't worry about the 12v stuff, it's going to draw from the battery.
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:11 AM   #16
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Sort of makes sense. Are you thinking that a few lights turned on or occasional flush of the toilet will not draw enough on the 3500/4000 generator to even make a difference or draw it down then?

Yes

Otherwise, if I understand correctly...I would need to go to the converter access panel & flip the breaker switches for everything EXCEPT the AC to prevent them (lights, water pump) from drawing on the generator!? But...then the lights & water pump won't function AT ALL would they!?

Yes

Ugh...sorry if i am just missing this whole concept.

And back to my original question / concern...is it my understanding that a generator such as the Champion 3500/4000 WILL be sufficient to operate my AC at FULL cooling capacity without fear of damaging it or anything else in the camper!? Although noisy in everyone's opinion...is it a good unit for my situation?
Don't know, I have a Yamaha 3000 watts.
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:29 AM   #17
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Sort of makes sense. Are you thinking that a few lights turned on or occasional flush of the toilet will not draw enough on the 3500/4000 generator to even make a difference or draw it down then?

Otherwise, if I understand correctly...I would need to go to the converter access panel & flip the breaker switches for everything EXCEPT the AC to prevent them (lights, water pump) from drawing on the generator!? But...then the lights & water pump won't function AT ALL would they!?

Ugh...sorry if i am just missing this whole concept.

And back to my original question / concern...is it my understanding that a generator such as the Champion 3500/4000 WILL be sufficient to operate my AC at FULL cooling capacity without fear of damaging it or anything else in the camper!? Although noisy in everyone's opinion...is it a good unit for my situation?
first the generator provides 110v ac......your lights and water pump are 12v......

the CONVERTER will take the 110ac from genny and "convert" it to 12volt power....the lights and pump cannot run DIRECTLY from the genny....keep in mind that a converter will work a lot harder if the camper battery is weak or very discharged...the converter charges the battery AND provides additional 12v power for accessories...think of them as a team...

as for your question, the campion 4000 SHOULD be more than sufficient to run your ac and your converter and your tv basically everything prob even including the fridge....if you wanted....except the water heater on elect...

and also for that matter ANY combo of 4000watts would work...(2 hondas , 2 champions)....or if you want the best of both and dont mind the weight you could get a single 3600inverter genny from honda or yamaha...(way more expensive)

i spent a total of about 900$ for BOTH of my champions and have been every bit satisified with the output, noise, and durability of the units thus far (2.5 yrs)....i camp mostly with my father in law who runs the honda 2000i setup and even though he gives me grief for buying "cheap" junk, we both agree that its not perceptably louder than his and it does the same thing at the end of the day......champion service has been great too....i dropped the 4000 and messed up the auto choke....they fixed it under warranty AND tuned it up .....and i TOLD them it was my fault..
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Awesome ironj...I think that more or less answers my question(s)!

From what i gather you are saying...if I get to the lake, fire up the geny, plug in my camper shoreline & turn the AC on I should be fine.

If/when I go into the camper to use the bathroom, wash hands, flip on a light or 2 at bedtime I will be fine (as long as the 12v is sufficiently charged ahead of time).

I will turn my fridge & water heater to propane (if I use at all).

I LOVE the idea of buying a HONDA. But, find it hard to justify $1000+ for a geny I might use 2-3X a season on my camper for boondocking!
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Awesome ironj...I think that more or less answers my question(s)!

From what i gather you are saying...if I get to the lake, fire up the geny, plug in my camper shoreline & turn the AC on I should be fine.

If/when I go into the camper to use the bathroom, wash hands, flip on a light or 2 at bedtime I will be fine (as long as the 12v is sufficiently charged ahead of time).

I will turn my fridge & water heater to propane (if I use at all).

I LOVE the idea of buying a HONDA. But, find it hard to justify $1000+ for a geny I might use 2-3X a season on my camper for boondocking!
EXACTLY....turn genny on, plug camper in go inside and turn ac on......use as normal...till gas runs out! LOL

and no....the pump and lights will have little impact on genny...like i said i run 2-3 tvs, sat box, and sound bar too..

my 4000 wont run the micro and ac at same time.....

ive seen a 2000i start and run a 13k ac with hard start cap instlled and off of eco throttle.......it was working tho....

like i said my champ 2000i has started my ac before.....it was struggling tho.....def would not recomend as a genny solution..
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Old 01-28-2014, 01:11 PM   #20
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I have Champion 3500/4000 and it powers my A/C, fridge, and lights just fine. I make sure the hot water heater is on propane, though. I also have a Honeywell inverter generator (2000), a Coleman (1100), and a Honda Powered Northstar (9000). For the money - a Champion is hard to beat.
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