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Old 07-01-2019, 09:38 AM   #1
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Is it just me or is the location of panels ridiculous

Hi..we just picked up the 2020 FR Surveryor...25'...the location of the fuse box is THE MOST RIDICULOUS placement EVER!! I am in decent shape for a 50-something...and I can barely squeeze in between the bed and the wall. My husband is a big guy with back problems...he will NEVER be able to even SEE the box, let alone change something.

Not only that, but you have to lie directly on the floor and look up to see the fuses..getting your arms in there to pull and put them back in is another issue. Difficult to impossible of you have had any kind of neck issues.

So...FR engineers, if you read these at all..FOR GOSH SAKE PUT THE PANELS WHERE A NORMAL PERSON CAN REACH THEM, we are not all toothpick contortionists!

The main question - can I get this panel moved? ...I will give up storage or closet space for this bit of luxury of not having to try to change or even check a fuse from laying on the floor, wedged between a bed and wall...and most likley at some point in future, getting stuck.

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Old 07-01-2019, 09:56 AM   #2
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Welcome to the forum its a great place to get your questions answered. You can get most anything moved if you are willing to pay for it. Realistically how often do you need to check the distribution panel? in the three years I have owned this rig I think I have only had to check it a couple of time when doing upgrades to the electrical. I do hear what you are saying tho about placement.
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Old 07-01-2019, 10:19 AM   #3
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Welcome from SoCal! We had that problem in our Itasca MH. In our current rig, the breaker panel is on the floor, but in the living room. That means my wife has to do the honors because even if I can get down there, having gotten there I cannot get back up.
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Old 07-01-2019, 02:54 PM   #4
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The main question - can I get this panel moved? ...I will give up storage or closet space for this bit of luxury of not having to try to change or even check a fuse from laying on the floor, wedged between a bed and wall...and most likley at some point in future, getting stuck.

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You can move the distribution panel to an easier location. Some things to keep in mind:
  • You will need a connection panel of some kind where the distribution panel is now. Without a closed connection panel, every wire going to/from the present panel will have to re-routed. The easiest way is to take each wire off the panel (one at time is easiest), and connect it to a new wire that runs to the new panel location. Label the new wire, and leave it hanging at the new panel location.
  • After you get every new wire added and tagged, then (and only then) move the panel to the new location. Connect each tagged wire to the correct location on the panel in the new location.
  • Per code, every 120V wire needs to be connected with wire nuts (or other approved connector) inside a junction box. Box can be metal or plastic. Every 120V circuit is going to have 3 connections inside the box(es), black (hot), white (neutral), and bare (or green for ground).
  • For 12V connections, you are not required to terminate inside a box. I would recommend screw barrier strips to extend the DC positive wires, and mount the strips inside at least a partially enclosed container.
  • I would recommend you run both a positive and negative wire for each 12V circuit instead of having to tie every negative to the trailer frame. On the negative side, use a bus bar to attach all the wires to and run 2 extra wires to tie the 12V panel (in its new location) and the bus bar to the trailer frame.
  • Use wire sizes at least as big as the wires coming into the panel now. Bigger won't hurt anything, smaller will.
A fair amount of work for probably not a lot of return. However, if it's important to you, do it. And if you test as you go, you will know for sure what is on each and every circuit. And if you take the chance to put this knowledge on your panel labels, you (and any future owner) will thank you. You will also fix poorly made connections near your panel. Do it neatly, and make your work something to be proud of.

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Old 07-01-2019, 03:03 PM   #5
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Was your fuse panel in this location when you bought the unit and you just didnít notice it?
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Old 07-01-2019, 03:40 PM   #6
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Hi..we just picked up the 2020 FR Surveryor...25'...the location of the fuse box is THE MOST RIDICULOUS placement EVER!! I am in decent shape for a 50-something...and I can barely squeeze in between the bed and the wall. My husband is a big guy with back problems...he will NEVER be able to even SEE the box, let alone change something.

Not only that, but you have to lie directly on the floor and look up to see the fuses..getting your arms in there to pull and put them back in is another issue. Difficult to impossible of you have had any kind of neck issues.

So...FR engineers, if you read these at all..FOR GOSH SAKE PUT THE PANELS WHERE A NORMAL PERSON CAN REACH THEM, we are not all toothpick contortionists!

The main question - can I get this panel moved? ...I will give up storage or closet space for this bit of luxury of not having to try to change or even check a fuse from laying on the floor, wedged between a bed and wall...and most likley at some point in future, getting stuck.

Thank you.
Juli
The service panel can be moved, but there are a lot of things that need to be taken into account such as where to move it to? From your post it appears that neither your or your husband can physically do this work. Therefor you should enlist the services of a "reputable" residential electrician. I would venture to guess that with labor & materials this job would cost out at about $1,000. And then there's the hole left where the panel used to be....
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Old 07-01-2019, 04:38 PM   #7
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Hi..we just picked up the 2020 FR Surveryor...25'...the location of the fuse box is THE MOST RIDICULOUS placement EVER!! I am in decent shape for a 50-something...and I can barely squeeze in between the bed and the wall. My husband is a big guy with back problems...he will NEVER be able to even SEE the box, let alone change something.

Not only that, but you have to lie directly on the floor and look up to see the fuses..getting your arms in there to pull and put them back in is another issue. Difficult to impossible of you have had any kind of neck issues.

So...FR engineers, if you read these at all..FOR GOSH SAKE PUT THE PANELS WHERE A NORMAL PERSON CAN REACH THEM, we are not all toothpick contortionists!

The main question - can I get this panel moved? ...I will give up storage or closet space for this bit of luxury of not having to try to change or even check a fuse from laying on the floor, wedged between a bed and wall...and most likley at some point in future, getting stuck.

Thank you.
Juli
My 120v panel and 12v fuse are both 4 inches from the floor. I am far sighted and can not read the labels. I removed the covers and took pictures with my cell phone to be able to read the labels.

I memorized the 120v circuit breaker function.

The 12v fuses could be replaced with 12v circuit breaker with a button reset.. these would be easier to reset than a standard fuse.



I hope this helped. Please let us know what you do.
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Old 07-01-2019, 05:40 PM   #8
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Every RV distribution panel I've ever seen, is down near the floor.
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Old 07-02-2019, 02:44 AM   #9
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Does anybody know why the distribution panel isn't located in a more accessible location?

Rewiring it when it is working, would fall under the ďIf it ainít broke, donít fix itĒ rule. Itís like opening your door, and inviting Gremlins in.
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Old 07-02-2019, 12:02 PM   #10
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I can see where that can be an issue. I looked at a couple of 25' Surveyor units, but I didn't know the exact model you have.

Can you post a picture of the panel and the surrounding area. That way we could offer some suggestions about how feasible it would be to move it and potential places.
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