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Old 09-17-2015, 09:45 AM   #1
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We are away camping with our Sunseeker 2014 3050s.Yesterday there was a short power outage in the campground( less than 30 minutes) and we had out power surge protector in place at the time.Last night about 11:45 our propane alarm starting beeping red green.After checking different things my husband finally checked the battery level and it was only showing 1/3!! He went outside and unplugged the surge protector and almost immediately the battery started charging back up.This morning it is still only at 2/3.We have read some of the forum messages about batteries and realize we may now never get a full battery charge but we are more concerned as to how this happened.
Does anyone know if the power outage would have done something and what about the surge protector?He has it unplugged now.He has also taken things apart and found a couple of lose screws so has tightened those(panel low near stairs)
Of course these things happen late at night!he was ready to cut the wires but fortunately didn't have to!
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Old 09-17-2015, 10:06 AM   #2
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Could be the surge protector did its job and prevented a surge going into the trailer but is now not working properly limiting partial voltage to the trailer. I'm sure there are some tests you can do with a meter to get voltage before surge protector and after. If power is restored and things are charging after your remove it then something is going on with surge protector. Too bad there wasn't someone else that could try it out in the trailer park to see if same conditions are present and to isolate issue to surge protector.

I have a hard wired surge protector and would rather replace it then burning up my main control panel in my trailer. let us know what you find out.
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Old 09-17-2015, 11:25 AM   #3
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What surge protector do you have?

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Old 09-17-2015, 01:09 PM   #4
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Hello
We are away camping with our Sunseeker 2014 3050s.Yesterday there was a short power outage in the campground( less than 30 minutes) and we had out power surge protector in place at the time.Last night about 11:45 our propane alarm starting beeping red green.After checking different things my husband finally checked the battery level and it was only showing 1/3!! He went outside and unplugged the surge protector and almost immediately the battery started charging back up.This morning it is still only at 2/3.We have read some of the forum messages about batteries and realize we may now never get a full battery charge but we are more concerned as to how this happened.
Does anyone know if the power outage would have done something and what about the surge protector?He has it unplugged now.He has also taken things apart and found a couple of lose screws so has tightened those(panel low near stairs)
Of course these things happen late at night!he was ready to cut the wires but fortunately didn't have to!
Thanks for your help!
Hi Not sure if the problem is with the surge protector or is there a problem with the TT inverter? The 12 volt power would have to pass through the inverter backwards to the 110 volt A/C side! There should be diodes in the inverter to prevent the 12 volt power from going backwards through the inverter. From what it sounds like to me you were supplying 110 Volts from your TT to the grid. This is very dangerous to the person that is working on the grid to repair the electrical problem if you were supplying power to the grid.

Hope this helps Tim
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Old 09-17-2015, 01:11 PM   #5
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Hi Not sure if the problem is with the surge protector or is there a problem with the TT inverter? The 12 volt power would have to pass through the inverter backwards to the 110 volt A/C side! There should be diodes in the inverter to prevent the 12 volt power from going backwards through the inverter. From what it sounds like to me you were supplying 110 Volts from your TT to the grid. This is very dangerous to the person that is working on the grid to repair the electrical problem if you were supplying power to the grid.

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When was inverter mentioned?

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Inverter and Converter are different things! Be careful giving wrong information please TimVWUP.

Inverter takes 12 volt DC battery power and makes 110 VAC for things like a Fridge or TV.

A Converter takes 110 VAC and make 12 VDC to run things like lights or the propane alarm. Also charges the 12 VDC batteries. It is impossible for a CONVERTER to create 110 VAC and go back to the power line.

In you case the low 12VDC caused the alarm to sound. Removing the surge protector allowed AC to pass and charge the battery again.

The model of surge protector is needed to diagnose further. It is quite possible there was low voltage that caused the protector to cut off and protect your RV.
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Late night issue follow up

Our surge protector is
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thanks to all who have responded so quickly.It is great when you have wifi when camping for these emergencies!
As of this morning,surge protector is plugged back in,appears to be working fine but battery has stopped at 2/3.
Thanks again!
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We are camping in beautiful Petoskey,Michigan and temperatures in the 80's which is amazing for so late in the season this far north:😎
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From what it sounds like to me you were supplying 110 Volts from your TT to the grid.
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Hi Not sure if the problem is with the surge protector or is there a problem with the TT inverter? The 12 volt power would have to pass through the inverter backwards to the 110 volt A/C side! There should be diodes in the inverter to prevent the 12 volt power from going backwards through the inverter. From what it sounds like to me you were supplying 110 Volts from your TT to the grid. This is very dangerous to the person that is working on the grid to repair the electrical problem if you were supplying power to the grid.

Hope this helps Tim
Maybe I missed something? But what? Are you saying battery power (12V) passed through (going in a backwards stream) the "converter" and then supplied power to the pedastel? Furthermore how would that "supply" 110 volts? Even if the converter was streaming in reverse it does not convert 12v to 110, it only converts 110 to 12v. Unless I am missing something, and I am no electrical engineer, I am thoroughly confused by your post.

The poster didnt say anything about an inverter which has me more confused by your post?!?!?
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