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Old 06-24-2012, 12:58 PM   #11
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Beware that using the furnace will eat up propane real fast. I only run my furnace to take the chill off.
Ter, thanks for the reminder. It is summer so I never thought of it. The furnace will use way more battery than propane. If you need the furnace you will most definitely need a good generator.
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Old 06-24-2012, 03:31 PM   #12
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Yes to bringing drinking water. Most of us do not drink the water from the fresh water tank.
uh no

We use our fresh water tank for drinking and cooking. If you don't like the freshwater at your regular house to drink, then I can understand not wanting to bring it on a trip, but our water is quite good, better than purchased bottled water. The exception to using the onboard tank is when we camp in winter, - minus 20 - and we use 5 gallon jugs filled at home. There is no danger drinking water from our fresh water tanks. However take reasonable sanitary precautions. For example, clean the fresh water hose connections by rinsing first and then a bleach solution so you are not introducing germs into the tank. A fresh water hose meant for drinking water - NOT a garden hose should be used. Never ever store the drinking water hose any where near the hose or other supplies used for dumping the holding tanks, and never use the drinking water hose for anything else. Bleach is your friend.

Have you looked at the difference between renting for a month and buying a used unit?
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Old 06-24-2012, 04:06 PM   #13
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Yes to bringing drinking water. Most of us do not drink the water from the fresh water tank.

Good luck and have fun.
i also have to respectfully disagree. people have been drinking from RVs' water tanks for decades, way before our society got addicted to bottled water.

we fill our FW tank with our home water and use it for drinking. doesn't taste any different nor does it create plastic bottle waste.
if you have to, get a Brita pitcher for the fridge, for drinking water.

as a dry camper, i think you really need to think your trip out. your family has never done this type of camping and you'll probably run out of water and battery power in 2 days.
you can't teach water/power conservation that quickly, for most families.

a generator and FW jugs and a gray water tote tank will be a must. unless you have a honey wagon available.
don't worry about filling the black tank. it'll hold a lot more than newbies think they can.
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Old 06-25-2012, 01:37 PM   #14
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Thank you everyone for the great info. This will really really help.

My wife and I have been toying with the thought of purchasing a trailer if we really like it. I think it's smart though to first try a rental to see if we like it. We have been to this same astronomy camp several times and know exactly what to expect in terms of environment. We'll use those porta-potties and the shower truck. In the past we used a tent so even without using all of the luxury items (microwave, ac, tv) this will still be an upgrade for us.

I have decided I will purchase either the Honda or Yamaha generator that I've been reading so much about. I'll use it for charging the batteries and running the microwave if really needed. I can run the generator from noon until 5:00 pm each day. I could also use it for my other battery which is for my telescope gear (mount, cameras, laptop, etc).

I like the idea of the paper plates. Our water is great in the Pacific NW so I'll feel fine drinking from the fresh water tank. We usually use these big blue 5 gallon water containers for water so I'll throw those in the back of the truck should we need them. As there's no water at the location we always bring more than we'll need.

Even if nothing works as planned this will still be far greater than the tent on the rocky ground. This place is like the rocky moon only scattered with cow dung.

Thanks for the great feedback.

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Old 06-25-2012, 02:33 PM   #15
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"Yes to bringing drinking water. Most of us do not drink the water from the fresh water tank."

Delete the word "Most" and insert the word "Some".

"Most" came from campers I know & based on using a regular garden hose instead of using a fresh water hose for filling up the FW tank. The taste of tap water vs bottle water didn't factor in at all.
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Our water is great in the Pacific NW so I'll feel fine drinking from the fresh water tank.
We drink the water out of our fresh water tank, but frankly I would be reluctant to drink the water out of the fresh water tank in a rental unit. You don't know the history of the unit. Has the fresh water tank been sanitized recently ?? Does the water come from a reliable source ?? Was the water tank filled with a hose that is meant for drinking water, or the common every day garden hose ?? Did the guy filling the tank just finish dumping the waste tanks without washing his hands ??
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I also think that water is going to be a larger issue for you than electrons, but here's another suggestion. If this is going to be a regular thing and you want to go ahead and buy the Honda or Yamaha genny, that's great. But you could also just pack a pair of quality jumper cables, and if the trailer battery becomes an issue, hook the trailer's battery up to your truck's battery and run the engine for an hour or so (a digital multimeter would be helpful here too.) That might just be all you'll need. Good luck and have fun!
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Old 06-26-2012, 08:11 AM   #18
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But you could also just pack a pair of quality jumper cables, and if the trailer battery becomes an issue, hook the trailer's battery up to your truck's battery and run the engine for an hour or so (a digital multimeter would be helpful here too.) That might just be all you'll need. Good luck and have fun!
There is a thread here that explains why this is an emergency procedure and not something to do regularly. I will find it as I don't want to re-type it. Herk...

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Old 06-27-2012, 05:37 PM   #19
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There is a thread here that explains why this is an emergency procedure and not something to do regularly. I will find it as I don't want to re-type it. Herk...

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Charging TT Battery While on the Road
Ok, I get what this post is saying...you use the TV's alternator to charge 2 different types of batteries, the TVs batt(s) is full, the TTs is not, the voltage regulator is going to apply charge and damage the TVs battery. Do I have that right? Because if that's true, then aren't all of us damaging our TVs batteries every time we plug in the 7-pin and it charges through that? Its the same principle, except on a smaller scale because of the smaller gauge wire. Am I missing something else?
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:47 PM   #20
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The answer, according to the references I cited, is yes if the camper's battery is seriously depleted.

As I understand it, the problem presents itself is when there is a disparity in voltage between the truck's battery and the camper's battery.

The truck's starting battery needs very little charge to "top it off" after starting; while at the same time you are putting a very low voltage deeply discharged battery that has large needs for amperage. The alternator, being a single stage charger, can't manage two batteries with such different needs and will apply too much charging voltage to the truck's battery.

That is the long and the short of it anyway. As I read it (again), the damage is a result of "cooking" the truck's battery is an "over time" sort of thing.

I think you should not "take my word for it" and should go to the library and read the book. I would be willing to see supporting references that disputes his work.
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