View Poll Results: Do you use powerline protection?
In line Surge Protector Only (Like Surge Guard) 60 50.00%
Voltage AutoTransformer (like Franks, Hughes, or Powermaster 4 3.33%
BOTH the above 4 3.33%
Naked to the world - Hope for the best 52 43.33%
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:37 PM   #51
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For a small amt more looks like the auto former offers both voltage and surge protection.

The auto former doesn't give more watts. As previously stated, the voltage is increased at the cost of amps ie watts in =watt out less the losses thru the auto former.

Capacitors are used to correct the voltage current phase shift from the motor. The auto former is also an inductive load that will shift the voltage current phase. I would be willing to bet the autoformer manufacturer corrected that before its' outlet.

Just another way to state what has already been stated.
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:04 PM   #52
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I just received our Surge Guard today. Just in time to try it out when we go camping with friends at Onondaga Cave State Park this weekend.
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:33 PM   #53
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Is the Franks a hard wire job or a plug to plug?
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:07 PM   #54
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Is the Franks a hard wire job or a plug to plug?
Plug to plug; but there is a kit available from Hughes that works with the Franks to hard wire it.
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Old 07-13-2012, 03:57 PM   #55
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Franks Autotransformers

I just got off the phone with Frank Izbinski the owner and inventor of the Franks unit. Read my review before you buy a surge suppressor.
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:02 PM   #56
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I mounted my hardwired surge gaurd behind the generator so that it would protect on both shore power or generator power. Took the toy hauler out for it's maiden voyage this past weekend. We camped at the gulf in Port Aransas Texas and the camp site was full. I checked the pedestal and it read 118 volts. Plugged the 50 amp adapter into the pedestal and ran the fridge and water heater on propane. Even though I was conscious of running only AC units and nothing else I still tripped the pedestal breaker 4-5 times in 3 days. Once I was running on generator power with shore breaker turned off and tripped the generator breaker which is when I noticed the surge gaurd tripped as well(this was due to dw and friend inside using the micro with a griddle and not being power conscious). After resetting the gen breaker and waiting for about 2 minutes power was restored. My question is was surge protector doing its job while on shore power even though the pedestal breaker tripped? I know that the surge gaurd never tripped as each time i reset the breaker i had immediate power again. Makes me think that I should have went with the portable unit that has the LCD display or Herks advise with the autotransformer.
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:11 PM   #57
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sounds like it was doing its job. it didn't see a reason to trip. the overload on the pedistle did and tripped.
the only voltage measurement u made was good. i don't see an autoformer doing anything here.
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Your spot on the auto-transformer should catch both the highs and the lows
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Old 07-26-2012, 06:43 AM   #59
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sounds like it was doing its job. it didn't see a reason to trip. the overload on the pedistle did and tripped.
the only voltage measurement u made was good. i don't see an autoformer doing anything here.
A power check at the pedestal with no load will only tell you that the post is wired correctly. It is no indication of how it will do under load.

If there is a 20 amp duplex next to the 30 or 50 amp socket, plugging in a voltmeter while you are running the microwave or AC will give you a better clue as to the pedestal's capability to provide steady power under load.

I ordered two of this display for my permanent install of my Franks autotransformer. It will continuously measure volts and amps in and out of the unit. I also ordered a 12 inch set of 30 amp RV pigtails (male and female) to make the wiring easy. The hot lead of pigtail will go through the ammeter "donut" provided with the display.

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Old 07-26-2012, 08:18 AM   #60
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i purchased two surge protectors from camping world a 50amp and a 30 amp glad i did
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