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08-14-2016, 04:07 PM
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Problem with primitive and battery life
Had an older 74 Starcraft trailer and had no problem with running the fridge being a standing pilot. Recently updated to a new Viking 17 ft and the new fridge has an ignitor. ...I have pulled fuses and thought I had just the one on to run the ignitor. Have a 18 w solar cell to keep up with battery, but still goes dead. What can I do to keep the battery up???
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08-14-2016, 04:11 PM
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Senior Member
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18w is barely 1-1/2A. Not enough for anything except maintaining a battery. You either need more better batteries, more solar, or a generator.
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08-14-2016, 10:02 PM
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Site Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by donniedu
18w is barely 1-1/2A. Not enough for anything except maintaining a battery. You either need more better batteries, more solar, or a generator.
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08-15-2016, 08:25 AM
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Site Team
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Where your old fridge didn't use battery power at all to run the fridge, your new one uses battery power all the time to keep the fridge running, not just when the igniter fires. So, you'll use a lot more battery power just running the fridge than you think.
As said above, you need more....
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08-15-2016, 12:03 PM
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x3
I had the battery die after 2 days. After I got home I did some metering and found out why. The drain is amazing.
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08-15-2016, 12:09 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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Most newer refrigerators have a heating element around the door frame to help with condensation which runs off 12v. They suck the juice.
Some years had a switch to shut off the door heater but newer ones do not.
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08-15-2016, 12:15 PM
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5picker
Dam. I looked for the switch on the new trailer, didn't see one, and "assumed" there was no heater. The last trailer fridge had the switch. THAT'S where the juice is all going to.
I'm going to have to try to search the schematic and see if I can fix that for next season.
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08-15-2016, 01:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5picker
Most newer refrigerators have a heating element around the door frame to help with condensation which runs off 12v. They suck the juice.
Some years had a switch to shut off the door heater but newer ones do not.
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Not to mention the propane detector, it cannot be disconnected either.
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08-15-2016, 01:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RussPastuch
5picker
Dam. I looked for the switch on the new trailer, didn't see one, and "assumed" there was no heater. The last trailer fridge had the switch. THAT'S where the juice is all going to.
I'm going to have to try to search the schematic and see if I can fix that for next season.
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Search for fridge heater. Someone else has already found which wire to cut.
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08-15-2016, 03:23 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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I don't know what model you have but if you look on the schematic that is typically on the back side of the fridge, you'll see what wire feeds the door heater. On some it is the same feed wire that goes to the interior light.
On mine, I actually have TWO 12v door heaters that are normally on ALL the time. (4 door fridge)
I was able to locate the wiring after the light but before the heater.
I disable them when we boondock.
HUGE difference in battery life.
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08-15-2016, 03:29 PM
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Site Team
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Do a search on door heater as there have been several threads showing which connection to remove from the control board.
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08-15-2016, 05:27 PM
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