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02-24-2017, 11:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wmtire
OK, if ALL the 12 volt DC items are NOT functioning, that helps isolate things.
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he miss-typed, other 12V systems are working so he has 12V at the panel...
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02-24-2017, 11:17 AM
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Great, I appreciate the help.. but I won't be able to check it till I get home around 5pm EST
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02-24-2017, 11:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5picker
Some trailers are wired that most of the 12v items such as the lights, alarms, radio, etc. circuitry go through the power distribution panel and those circuits are protected by fuses in the panel.
Other items (sometimes, not always) are powered and protected by 12v circuit breakers that are inline with the battery and do NOT run through the fuse panel.
These circuit breakers can be auto-reset and because so, many will never even know they exist as once tripped, they will reset in a few seconds.
Others have reset buttons and need to be manually reset.
My bet is one (or more) of these has tripped. A loose connection at one of these or something on the ground side of the circuit would be my next guess.
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Oh boy... that makes troubleshooting a bit more tricky I guess... LOL
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02-24-2017, 11:18 AM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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Hold up everyone......
The OP said other 12v things work.
There is no problem with the battery or the converter or the shore power.
Let's let him check to see if there are 12v circuit breakers mounted on the frame near the battery before we all go on a wild goose chase.
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02-24-2017, 11:20 AM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawn.O
Oh boy... that makes troubleshooting a bit more tricky I guess... LOL
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Not really if you know they exist in the circuitry.
Shame on the dealer for not explaining.
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02-24-2017, 11:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5picker
Hold up everyone......
The OP said other 12v things work.
There is no problem with the battery or the converter or the shore power.
Let's let him check to see if there are 12v circuit breakers mounted on the frame near the battery before we all go on a wild goose chase.
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Seems like the easiest for me to check.. it's going to be the first thing I do, then I'm looking for the fuse panel under the fridge, then I'm going to try and get to the main fuse box
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02-24-2017, 11:24 AM
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WOW, I type slow. A lot of posts while I was typing. OK, the OP has clarified that it's not ALL the 12 volt DC. LOL
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02-24-2017, 11:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5picker
Not really if you know they exist in the circuitry.
Shame on the dealer for not explaining.
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guess I'll be crawling under my rig this weekend looking for some of these...
good luck OP and keep us posted
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02-24-2017, 11:36 AM
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I sure will I do appreciate all the help
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02-24-2017, 11:42 AM
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This might have caused some of our misunderstanding. (See radio.)
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Originally Posted by bhall5368
Yes sir the radio doesn't work as well as the refrigerator and lights etc.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bhall5368
I'm sorry Shawn, i'm not very electronic literate LOL... The lights, the radio, and outlets all work. It's just the awning, slide, and stabilizer jacks.. The refrigerator light came on as well as if it we're working
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... unless I've missed something, the refrigerator light operates in 110v AC.
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02-24-2017, 11:44 AM
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Yes you're right, sorry bout that, was speaking into phone. I guess Siri thought I said "doesn't"... radio DOES work..
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02-24-2017, 11:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Dan
This might have caused some of our misunderstanding. (See radio.)
... unless I've missed something, the refrigerator light operates in 110v AC.
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Not the one in my Dometic... 12v all the way.
Maybe in a residential style but I've not seen any in hybrids that were 120v AC.
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02-24-2017, 12:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5picker
Not the one in my Dometic... 12v all the way.
Maybe in a residential style but I've not seen any in hybrids that were 120v AC.
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My error. I should try to blame it on autocorrect but that probably won't fly!! (Should a decent autocorrect program change tongue to fongue? Asking for a friend).
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02-24-2017, 01:02 PM
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Partial 12V system failure
My 2014 FR Wildwood came with a crank that allows you to move the slide in and out. Yours should as well. If unsure, call your dealer and ask how to move the slide. Then you can check those fuses.
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02-24-2017, 01:10 PM
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I had the same issue and the converter had failed. The dealer replaced it under warranty.
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02-24-2017, 01:26 PM
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I was thinking of another possibility and that is that the battery worked for the first round of operations, but, possibly the converter didn't recharge it and there was enough juice in the battery to make the other stuff look like it was working, but, when the large draw motors were switched on, they didn't have enough voltage to power them. That would make the converter the suspect, either the breaker to it tripped or it is bad. I turn off my converter during the winter at the main breaker leaving everything else on AC operating and disconnect my battery at the disconnect switch to keep it from discharging (I put the battery on a float charger direct connection.). Check your breaker that feeds the converter which is on the panel (usually the top breaker) if you can get to it. Turn it off and then back on a couple of times. You may get lucky. If you have a battery checker (volt meter) you could check the battery and see if it has a low charge as well.
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02-24-2017, 01:27 PM
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Check your battery, also.
Something else you might want to check, in addition to the fuse that Picker suggested, was make sure your battery is showing a full charge. My slide and jacks have to have battery power to operate. Shore power charges the battery, but the fuse that Picker showed was wired into my battery. I had to replace both fuse and battery in mine.
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02-24-2017, 01:42 PM
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My grandson used to flip the "battery disconnect" switch. Have you checked that?
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02-24-2017, 02:11 PM
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My slide 12 vdc power doesn't route through the distribution panel inside to the slide; it is fed via a circuit breaker on the front, like the one 5picker attached. I actually have 4 such DC breakers, a separate 120 Amp main (auto reset), this smaller auto reset for the slide and 3 others... these 4 are on a common bus bar... that feeds to / from the tow vehicle's 7 pin, the tongue jack, breakaway, and the feed to the distribution panel.
I don't have electric jacks (stabilizers) but my awning is fused in the distribution panel inside.
I was going to say check the battery cutoff switch, but the way my BCO was it would not cut power to the slide or those other things.
I don't see how it could be the issue, but wonder if the breakaway switch was accidentally operated... the cable pulled out??
WW
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02-24-2017, 02:22 PM
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This happened to me a couple of times. First time I found a blown automotive blade fuse in the converter. Replaced the fuse and everything worked fine.
The second time the coach battery was too weak to start the slides etc. Hooked the rig up to the tow vehicle and everything worked. Later I found the battery disconnect had been activated and the coach battery had drained too low for normal operations.
Good luck.
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