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Originally Posted by TURBS
You'll be fine 15 minute install.
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Heck, it takes me 15 minutes to collect tools typically!
btw, your forum signature is different than your app signature w/ the # of days camped.
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02-26-2016, 01:59 PM
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Hmmm I better straighten that out!
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02-26-2016, 03:40 PM
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Always Learning
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Welp, ordered from BestConverter.com hopefully $30 for shipping means it won't take too long. (sigh, you really get used to free 2-day Amazon prime shipping!).
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02-26-2016, 07:24 PM
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NOT GOOD!
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Originally Posted by ependydad
.. and a b!tch ain't one. I have had some intermittent 12v issues for a while. I think each one has been a clue to a bigger issue.
Today was the coup de grase- my WifiRanger (wired into the 12v system) sketched out on me twice. At the same time, my mobile hotspot spazzed our (plugged into a 12v car charger).
This evening, the lights in the camper dimmed a couple of times. While it was happening, my wife was in the kitchen and said that they heard popping noises and we started to smell hit electrical smell.
It all seemed to originate from the converter. I shut everything down right away and started moving the breaker/distribution panel so that I could see what was going on.
I have a WFCO WF-68100A converter. The LED status light was showing amber at first and then it turned to flashing amber. According to the owner's manual, that indicates that it was off (it was, I flipped the breaker) and that my battery is showing low voltage (which it shouldn't as I'm always connected to shore power and it should keep my battery minty and fresh).
I haven't done any more troubleshooting as my volt meter sucks. But, I do plan on following the notes in another thread.
I also assume I'm just going to buy a Progressive Dynamics converter and install that. My nads are feeling big these days and I might take a stab at the install (it helps that it plugs in and my father-in-law will be here on Tuesday).
Any thoughts or points of wisdom?
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Let me satrt off with that people need to learn that any issue with one item on one side of the electric is going to effect all things hence your issue with ( wifi ranger, then the hotspot as they are both tired to the 12 volt system as well as one in the same while running.
Also you did the correct thing of turning all things off, but a HUGE misunderstand of of the power systems work in rv's means that the "power converter" has not much if anything to do with the power distribution box! as the converter takes 120 volts and makes 12 volts, and all that it is the power box are fuses and circuit breakers, so i hope this helps.
And lastly you are correct, and your first thing was the dimming of the lights yes your wfco converter has bite the big one (like most do) just get a progressive or itoa converter and please make sure you replace it with a full multi battery charger so it can properly charge the battery with extra power when needed and also go into float when needed (and all the other modes) and also different types of battery's (as lithium keeps getting more popular)
Power converters are very easy to exchange and not yo badly priced as things go today
Hope some of this helps and Happy camping
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02-26-2016, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by silverback 35ts
Let me satrt off with that people need to learn that any issue with one item on one side of the electric is going to effect all things hence your issue with ( wifi ranger, then the hotspot as they are both tired to the 12 volt system as well as one in the same while running.
Also you did the correct thing of turning all things off, but a HUGE misunderstand of of the power systems work in rv's means that the "power converter" has not much if anything to do with the power distribution box! as the converter takes 120 volts and makes 12 volts, and all that it is the power box are fuses and circuit breakers, so i hope this helps.
And lastly you are correct, and your first thing was the dimming of the lights yes your wfco converter has bite the big one (like most do) just get a progressive or itoa converter and please make sure you replace it with a full multi battery charger so it can properly charge the battery with extra power when needed and also go into float when needed (and all the other modes) and also different types of battery's (as lithium keeps getting more popular)
Power converters are very easy to exchange and not yo badly priced as things go today
Hope some of this helps and Happy camping
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Thanks silverback. You confirmed everything I thought I knew (even if I didn't say it properly/outloud). It helps to read it to make sure I'm not misunderstanding.
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03-01-2016, 06:21 AM
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Ependydad, you can install the converter. DH and I managed to install one on our previous trailer. We took lots of pictures and made notes as we took the old one out, then used those to install the new one. We were so happy when we flipped the switch and there was light! For 2 non mechanically inclined people we were excited. So much so, we forget to finish putting the screws in. On the trip home, the new converter feel out of its base. It bounced around put was still working!
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03-01-2016, 09:51 AM
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Location: Warsaw,NC
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I have to install my converter and I plan to take lots of pictures and then check the wiring three or four times before I hook up power. I plan on making sure batteries are fully charged and the negative cable is off the batteries. I don't trust myself around electric and batteries. I triple check myself
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03-05-2016, 12:10 PM
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Always Learning
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I swapped out the converter this morning. Overall, it was pretty easy- 12v positive and negative cables, a ground, and it plugged into the distribution panel. Pretty easy peasy.
The hardest part was the screws holding down the old 12v cables were put on by a gorilla and I got help from my father-in-law.
But, it's done. Maybe 20 minutes of work.
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03-05-2016, 12:21 PM
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I told you a piece of cake!
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06-07-2016, 07:24 PM
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Dealer called me back today and told me that my converter is shot. They are ordering a replacement but he isn't sure if it will make it in time for our Yellowstone trip that starts 6/20...
I don't have my unit handy and this is the only pic I have of it but I was thinking of replacing it with the PD 9280 on my own if the warranty replacement doesn't come in time. But the reviews I'm reading say that the cord comes in a 20A plug. I don't think the back of my panel had a 20A outlet but instead a 15A.
Did you guys have to modify your panel in order to plug in the 9280 or was it a direct swap? Otherwise the 9270 has the 15A plug but will a 70A converter be enough?
The trailer is a Sabre 36QBOK (2015). I wish I had it back so that I could lay my hands on it and figure out what plug is on the back and what converter is installed...
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06-07-2016, 08:01 PM
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Always Learning
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My distribution panel had a 20amp plug and so did my converter.
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06-08-2016, 09:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ependydad
My distribution panel had a 20amp plug and so did my converter.
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Interesting ... Mine does not. ( 2016 )
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06-08-2016, 10:02 AM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny kustom
Interesting ... Mine does not. ( 2016 )
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You don't have a 100 amp converter [emoji6]
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06-11-2016, 05:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny kustom
Interesting ... Mine does not. ( 2016 )
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I'm pretty sure my plug was a 15A as well. Kenny do you know what amp converter is in your trailer? I don't think mine had a 100A, I think I would have taken note of that...
The PD series has a 70A that comes with a 15A plug which would save me the hassle of dealing with the 80A converter plug. It doesn't sound like the dealer is going to get it before we leave on our 20+ day trip out west. I can't believe Forest River can't ship a part inside of 3 weeks...
Oh well, I can get it via amazon prime and have it here in time to install myself, I just want to minimize the job time as I get home from work and we leave two days later...
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06-11-2016, 06:26 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Location: Iowa
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70 amp is about max for 15 amp
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06-11-2016, 06:40 PM
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Always Learning
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wentcamping
I can't believe Forest River can't ship a part inside of 3 weeks...
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I don't believe that. I'd be calling Sabre for the skinny.
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06-11-2016, 09:04 PM
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Snap, crackle, hot smell. I got 99 problems..
Quote:
Originally Posted by wentcamping
I'm pretty sure my plug was a 15A as well. Kenny do you know what amp converter is in your trailer? I don't think mine had a 100A, I think I would have taken note of that...
The PD series has a 70A that comes with a 15A plug which would save me the hassle of dealing with the 80A converter plug. It doesn't sound like the dealer is going to get it before we leave on our 20+ day trip out west. I can't believe Forest River can't ship a part inside of 3 weeks...
Oh well, I can get it via amazon prime and have it here in time to install myself, I just want to minimize the job time as I get home from work and we leave two days later...
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Here's mine.
It won't be in there too much longer.
After this weekend, I want to be able to run both ac on 30A.
So a magnum hybrid inverter will be in the works.
2016 Sabre 36QBOK
2015 Ram 3500 CUMMINS
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06-12-2016, 08:09 AM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny kustom
Here's mine.
It won't be in there too much longer.
After this weekend, I want to be able to run both ac on 30A.
So a magnum hybrid inverter will be in the works.
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55 amp ✌️
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06-12-2016, 08:31 AM
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Site Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wentcamping
Dealer called me back today and told me that my converter is shot. They are ordering a replacement but he isn't sure if it will make it in time for our Yellowstone trip that starts 6/20...
I don't have my unit handy and this is the only pic I have of it but I was thinking of replacing it with the PD 9280 on my own if the warranty replacement doesn't come in time. But the reviews I'm reading say that the cord comes in a 20A plug. I don't think the back of my panel had a 20A outlet but instead a 15A.
Did you guys have to modify your panel in order to plug in the 9280 or was it a direct swap? Otherwise the 9270 has the 15A plug but will a 70A converter be enough?
The trailer is a Sabre 36QBOK (2015). I wish I had it back so that I could lay my hands on it and figure out what plug is on the back and what converter is installed...
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Wow. The wires are hanging by a thread.
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