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Old 06-22-2015, 06:32 PM   #1
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Ok bought a new trailer that is solar ready. Now what is the advantage of using and the cost to buy? How many panels to run
1 TV
2 heat
3 lights
4 Micro way
5 Fire place
6 any other small appliances

I see using when dry camping but Gen may be just as good and maybe cheaper.

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If you want to run a microwave, you'll probably need a bank of 4 deep cycle batteries, along with solar panels.
Personally, I prefer an inverter generator to solar panels.
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You'll need to know the solar pre wiring size to know how much solar can be put on it.
My solar system is a larger system I designed to run everything except my 2 A/C units. We boondock a lot.
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The only thing that makes it solar ready is a little connector with two wires hanging off it as far as I could see on my "solar ready" XLR. I would say a good $1 to 1.50 cost there.
If you want to run all the stuff you mentioned you'll need to start from scratch as mud details.
Maybe I'm wrong and I haven't seen something though.
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Ok bought a new trailer that is solar ready. Now what is the advantage of using and the cost to buy? How many panels to run
1 TV
2 heat
3 lights
4 Micro way
5 Fire place
6 any other small appliances

I see using when dry camping but Gen may be just as good and maybe cheaper.

Later RJD
Oh boy...you ought to sit down for this..


Solar ain't running any of the things you mention. Its your battery bank. So, where should you start...read a lot. Search thru posts here about solar, look on-line. There is so much you can learn.

Heres a brief summary: lights use 12v only. Furnace is propane and 12v. Rest is 120vac. Without an inverter, only the furnace and lights will work on battery. The fireplace.....forget it.

Honestly, by your question, I'd guess you didn't research solar power. solar only charges your batteries (yes it can power some things, but essentially it charges your batteries) Take this advice: when going solar, take your time, spend money wisely & research.

Going solar: Step 1, conserve. Example: convert to LED lighting. Step 2, determine what your needs are. Example:.CPAP machine or television. then determine usage and power draw. Step 3, determine inverter needed to power items in step 2. Step 4: calculate battery bank that is needed to supply said inverter from step 3. Step 5: Now figure what solar power you'll need to properly recharge the batteries in a reasonably bright day.

Do I have you confused or frustrated? Its ok. Solar has a steep learning curve. Those of us who have solar have all crawed up that curve. Keep asking questions, we'll help. But, first of all, read and learn all you can about solar. All the while learn to conserve.

For most, a generator is easier.
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Old 06-23-2015, 08:52 AM   #6
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Thanks for the reply's. Nope did not research as that is why I put the question here. As I thought Gen is the best route to go do the the limited uses of Solar. Yes a pamphlet came with my new camper with some hint of of the solar power use but was not very helpful.

The other question would be if a person was going that route were do you put the panels they show ones with legs set up next to camper. Later RJD
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Were you put them depends on were you camp. some people will attach them to there trailer roof, this works if you camp in areas were you don't have trees that will block the sun. I tend to camp in areas with lots of trees so i have my panels on a long wire (20 feet) so I can move them to a spot on the camp that gets the most sun. My system is small so it is easy to do. If you have a 500W system like mud this would not be practical.
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Solar isn't for everyone. For casual camping a few long weekends out of the year (largely on hookups) a genset might make more sense. But I do disagree with some of the points already mentioned. It IS capable of running many of the devices you mentioned during hours of energy production.. or at least taking a decent chunk of the load off of your battery bank.

If you do any amount of dry camping gensets are not easier to use nor cheaper, but they are lighter.

Solar is hassle free. No lugging a genset in and out, plugging in/unplugging, keeping the tanks filled, having to carry additional fuel, it's silent, no stinky exhaust, lower maintenance, no need to run out and shut it down or provide additional weather protection if it rains, no getting stuck in camp babysitting a genset while your batteries are still recharging, no need to purchase additional equipment to maintain your battery when in storage, and so on and so on.

While the majority of my solar equipment will last much longer, I set a 10 year expected life of my system based on the expected life of my battery bank in order to run some numbers. While the initial cost for solar is greater than a genset, daily usage over a 10 year span will cost less than 1/3 the cost of running a genset. Less if you are using dual gensets. Of course.. those figures don't include things like genny repairs, and assuming it never needs oil or filter changes and that fuel prices never go up.

I wouldn't be so quick to discount solar. If you're interested, I would encourage you to spend some time on Jack Mayers website. There are some excellent write-ups in plain English that walk you through all aspects of RV electrical and solar systems.

I'm also not harshing on gensets. I actually own 2 - 2000w genny's myself... and I use them when needed, but it's very rare.

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What is the actual weight of the trailer? What is the pin weight of the trailer? What is the MCGVW of the Avalanch? What is the actual GVW of the Avalanch? What are the allowable weights of the Avalanch (they are on a sticker on the door frame of drivers door)? Sorry for all the questions but I need this info to make an informed reply. Take the truck to a scale and weigh it with full fuel and yourself. Then take the trailer and weigh it full of the stuff you want to take with you. It is a PITA but that is the only way to see if you will be within your weights. Never trust the weights published on a trailer, they are always wrong.
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You are correct on all your points. I said that the OP couldn't run his stuff off the panels alone just to get a point across and keeping it simple. I often run the fridge off my solar only (of course thru an inverter) when the conditions are right and batteries are full.

What the heck is going on? I quoted Yarome but a quote by Bear shows up from a different post all together?????
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Old 06-23-2015, 11:03 AM   #10
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Thanks for the additional info. I will check out Jacks site tho. Disagree with some points of the Gen as the one I have as long as you do not run air will run for 24 hrs and it's db is about as good as a Honda and a heck of a lot cheaper to buy about half the cost and only weights 75 pounds. Later RJD
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