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11-16-2015, 09:18 PM
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Solar setup???
Ok I've read all the posts till I'm blue in the face and thoroughly confused.
I have my TH in the boonys at the hunt club.
I currently have 2 group 24 battery's that I would like to keep charged up throughout the week. These new fridges still use current even when using gas and are almost killing my battery's.
I would also like to upgrade to more power later.
What should I do?
Mel
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11-16-2015, 09:27 PM
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Well you could mount 2) 100 watt Renogy solar panels on the roof with a charge controller. That will keep them charged just keep up with the battery water maintenance. Need sun though.
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11-16-2015, 09:30 PM
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Go ahead and get a mppt controller for later expansion or just get a cheap pwm?
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11-16-2015, 09:31 PM
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Oh I got my Renogy panels/kit off eBay.
Renogy panels are nice and efficient monocrystillin panels.
Or www.regony.com they have free ship also.
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11-16-2015, 09:38 PM
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Also convert interior and exterior lights to LED lights get the biggest that will fit for brightness. They draw very little power.
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11-16-2015, 10:15 PM
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11-17-2015, 07:56 AM
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11-30-2015, 07:08 AM
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I ordered the 100w starter kit today and saved 30 bucks!
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Originally Posted by mud yapster
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11-30-2015, 07:27 AM
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Also what do you need when connecting to a generator or to shore power?
Do you need to disconnect the charge controller from the batterys?
Mel
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11-30-2015, 08:57 AM
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I assume that your TH has a converter multi-stage charger. Frankly, those chargers don't charge the batteries fully, which can be part of the problem with batteries running down. I suggest a dedicated 115V charger; something around 50 amps or more. IOTA makes such a charger. Then disconnect your converters charger. You should have only one charger at a time. I would simply switch off the solar charger on shore power, but would plan to get a good charger. I would also suggest getting a hydrometer so you will know when the batteries are fully charged and a Trimetric battery monitor is highly recommended.
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11-30-2015, 09:02 AM
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I also meant to mention; the panel needs to be tilted 30 degrees and properly oriented towards the sun. Also make sure no shadow falls on a panel element... not even one. And, that you are in full sun. A panel laying flat in full sun puts out about 30% less than one tilted.
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12-01-2015, 08:28 AM
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What i'm really asking is can I connect both the trailer shore power/converter and the solar controller directly to my battery bank without any cutoff or shunt?
Mel
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12-01-2015, 08:45 AM
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The set up I have, Yes.
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12-01-2015, 10:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mele
What i'm really asking is can I connect both the trailer shore power/converter and the solar controller directly to my battery bank without any cutoff or shunt?
Mel
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Like I said, " You should have only one charger at a time." in post #10 above.
From what I know (46 years in electronic field, but still learning) you should not have more than one charger connected to a battery (or batteries) at the same time. Will it explode, no; I wouldn't think. But, these smart chargers are making charging decisions based on the voltage they are seeing and one charger is going to affect the other as it tries to do its job; you more than likely will not have properly charged batteries as the result.
So, if I were you I would simply switch off the solar controller / charger while on shore power.
WW
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12-01-2015, 10:38 AM
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I currently have a battery cutoff switch installed that came with the TT.
I wonder if I could use a multi battery marine switch and "reverse" wire it.
Have the batteries on the common pole have shore power on bat1 and solar on bat2????
Humm..........
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Originally Posted by WolfWhistle
Like I said, " You should have only one charger at a time." in post #10 above.
From what I know (46 years in electronic field, but still learning) you should not have more than one charger connected to a battery (or batteries) at the same time. Will it explode, no; I wouldn't think. But, these smart chargers are making charging decisions based on the voltage they are seeing and one charger is going to affect the other as it tries to do its job; you more than likely will not have properly charged batteries as the result.
So, if I were you I would simply switch off the solar controller / charger while on shore power.
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12-01-2015, 11:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mele
I currently have a battery cutoff switch installed that came with the TT.
I wonder if I could use a multi battery marine switch and "reverse" wire it.
Have the batteries on the common pole have shore power on bat1 and solar on bat2????
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I'm thinking and it hurts! You could use a marine switch like you suggested, but seems like overkill, since the solar charger has a power switch or button. Why not just throw the cutoff switch and separate them that way. Of course, everything 12vdc will be on the converter only?
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12-01-2015, 11:51 AM
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Yes it probably is overkill. And come to think of it I would not want power from the solar panels going to the controller without it hooked to the batteries.....
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12-01-2015, 12:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mele
What i'm really asking is can I connect both the trailer shore power/converter and the solar controller directly to my battery bank without any cutoff or shunt?
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I have never heard of anyone ever disconnecting their solar charge controller when plugged into shore power.
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12-01-2015, 12:45 PM
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With the correct solar controller, there is not a problem between the two. When I am on shore power, controller only shows about .1-.3 amps from panels. No shore power and a load on bats, over 13.0 amps. Have not had a single problem. Since I am using expensive AGM bats. I did change out the converter that came with the RV with a much better 4 stage converter. I had to because original went bad and fried the bats. that came with RV.
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12-02-2015, 09:32 AM
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Ok.... Now if I want to upgrade will a 20 amp mppt controller be large enough for 4 100 watt panels in a series-parallel?
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