Surge protector

[rattleNsmoke]

Nah, not going that route now turbs, I'd still have to remove the hardwires from the unit itself. I just hope they send a UPS call tag to take care of the shipping charge. I shouldn't have to eat that.

[RKR]

For you guys that installed the hard wired Progressive EMS system. Where did you find your 50 amp inv line plugs. All I can find are the plugs that are 90 degree angled plugs.
Installing this on the weekend and am getting frustrated trying to find the proper plugs to make the system easily removable.
I've checked the local Lowes and HD and did some online hunting.
I'm no electrician but can find my way around a tool box. It doesn't look hard to install and the paperwork that came with the system makes it look pretty cut and dry.


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[TURBS]

Watch ebay you can get super deals on 50 amp if you watch.

Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...162662&alt=web



TURBS

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[wana65stang]

B and B, I don't know who you were talking to that Progressive's are not CSA approved and not for sale in Canada I bought mine at Owasco RV in Whitby. They had to order it, took two days to get and Full CSA approval on it.

[itat]

jfrauts, what did Owasco charge you for it and what model did you get?

[wana65stang]

itat, I got the EMS-PT30C paid $386.05 ( CANADIAN $ )

[RKR]

Originally Posted by f1100turbo

Watch ebay you can get super deals on 50 amp if you watch.

Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...162662&alt=web



TURBS

"SABRE OWNERS UNITED"

Thanks Turbs. That's what I was pulling up but I thought they were wrong. I just went out to the 5er noticed that they will work.
Like I said , I'm no electrician but I'll get it done.

Thanks bud


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[mud yapster]

I just got my Progressive 50Amp Surge protector EMS-LCHW50 in the mail yesturday from RV Parts Center for $278 it has the built in display on it. I'll post pics of the install after I put it in tonight after work.

[TURBS]

Originally Posted by mud yapster

I just got my Progressive 50Amp Surge protector EMS-LCHW50 in the mail yesturday from RV Parts Center for $278 it has the built in display on it. I'll post pics of the install after I put it in tonight after work.

Yeah pics are pretty much mandatory around here.

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[RickV]

My should arrive tomorrow from AdventureRV I went with the remote display model was $292.11 including delivery. If pics are mandatory I will try to remember to take some.

[Witch Doctor]

Originally Posted by RickV

My should arrive tomorrow from AdventureRV I went with the remote display model was $292.11 including delivery. If pics are mandatory I will try to remember to take some.

This is the only picture mandatory. Big man and shorty...

[mud yapster]

Installed my Progessive 50amp surge protector last night and wired it coming out of the transfer switch so I can have protection from the shore power and the generator. The wires above the the surge protector are just some satellite cables hanging there.

[Papicamper]

I was holding out for the Progressive 50 amp portable but when CW put the Surge Guard at $95 it made me go over the edge. I'll risk the lifetime warranty , etc for almost 1/3 the cost...they're probably dumping them...but it performs essentially the same functions without the digital readout (that I couldn't readout anyway). Good deal at $95!

[downeyr]

I have the 50 amp TRC Portable Surge Guard. I know it has saved me a couple of times. I made swag crimped safety cables for all of the connections to keep and least the impulse thief away. I think it is worth every penny of the cost. I would also prefer the hard wired model but had the portable left over from our first motor home so we are using that. The only real issue with this model is that some of the power hook ups are close to the ground and when you add this to it, your power connector ends up laying flat on the ground in the elements.

[TURBS]

Originally Posted by Papicamper

I was holding out for the Progressive 50 amp portable but when CW put the Surge Guard at $95 it made me go over the edge. I'll risk the lifetime warranty , etc for almost 1/3 the cost...they're probably dumping them...but it performs essentially the same functions without the digital readout (that I couldn't readout anyway). Good deal at $95!

$95.00 worth of surge protection you'll get to! [emoji106]

TURBS

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[Kaadk]

Originally Posted by Papicamper

I was holding out for the Progressive 50 amp portable but when CW put the Surge Guard at $95 it made me go over the edge. I'll risk the lifetime warranty , etc for almost 1/3 the cost...they're probably dumping them...but it performs essentially the same functions without the digital readout (that I couldn't readout anyway). Good deal at $95!

At $95 and without an LCD that's gotta be the lower end model. Be careful, I don't believe that one has all the same protection, like low voltage, that the higher end model has.

I had started a thread last year to find out what the difference was between the two called "difference between surge protection and power protection" or something like that. I'm mobile right now otherwise I'd look it up for you.



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[Witch Doctor]

Originally Posted by downeyr

I have the 50 amp TRC Portable Surge Guard. I know it has saved me a couple of times. I made swag crimped safety cables for all of the connections to keep and least the impulse thief away. I think it is worth every penny of the cost. I would also prefer the hard wired model but had the portable left over from our first motor home so we are using that. The only real issue with this model is that some of the power hook ups are close to the ground and when you add this to it, your power connector ends up laying flat on the ground in the elements.

I have the same problem, The unit is waterproofed, but the plug end to your power cord is not. I just cut a zip lock bad and put it inside for the rain purpose only to protect any water from entering the plug in end when I know it will rain or a lot of dew. Been working for me...Might be wrong but who knows. CW will warranty it they say for year, but mine went out after that and I took it back and gave me a new one.( besides I called TRC and they said just take it back and get new one) No questions asked They had my record in the computer when I purchased it far out of warranty, so They really do not question it. That is what is good about CW. I had chairs break and everything else, they always just gave me a new one. One exception when my awning pole ripped my carpet, they asked how it happened, I told them from the pole. I thought it was because of uneven ground and I tightened up to much. That's the only thing they wouldn't take care of. That's why I will pay a few bucks more to buy from them.... Now I put a 1/2" lenox block on the one pole that rests on the carpet.... I also still have just the surge protector, only problem as others have stated it will not show revised polarity, and open grounds also most important is that there is no time delay built in, so if your electric pops off and on and your compressor for the A/C did not equalize yet it will go out on internal over load. I keep it as spear it will still protect you from a surge. Wait til OC reads this I'm sure I will be wrong like every other post I make. But it will help.

[deartruc]

Surge suppression is the first step, power protection (inc surge suppression ) is better. Of course I'm a looker and not a doer, so I haven't purchased anything yet. But, will get the power protector when I get around to it since it not only handles surges but brown outs, open leg spikes, reversed neutrals and all the other bad things I've ever read about.

[westom]

Originally Posted by deartruc

Surge suppression is the first step, power protection (inc surge suppression ) is better.

Define surge. Insufficient current resulting in a low voltage is too often called a surge. Slightly high but harmful voltage is called a surge. A microsecond high current spike is called a surge. Some surges are between two wires. Other surges come down any or all wires to connect to earth. The word surge is subjective. Therefore is used to promote some protectors that do almost nothing useful.

One rare and typically destructive surge hunts for a connection to earth. This may even conduct through tires. And will select which appliances to use as a destructive connection to earth. Critical to protecting from this type of surge is a protector as close to earth ground as possible (adjacent to the power pole). Protection increases with separation between protector and appliances.

Protection is compromised with any sharp wires bends and every foot increase in a connection between protector and earth ground compromised. Surge protectors without this earth ground do not claim to protect from that type of surge.

These protectors also cannot detect a missing earth ground.

Some protectors claim to protect from a microsecond voltage increase between two AC wires. That type of surge is typically so tiny (called noise) as to not cause appliance damage.

Of course, more common anomalies include insufficient current resulting in a low voltage (harmful to motorized appliances and not to electronics) or a slightly high but harmful voltage. A surge protector for campground power should disconnect power when these occur. And also report open neutral and reverse polarity.

Each and different surge should be defined by manufacturer specification numbers. Subjective claims are why some $10 protector can be sold for $100. Some assume is must be better only because it is more expensive and called a surge protector.

[mud yapster]

You get what you pay for, investigate all devices before buying no matter what the price, science doesn't lie it reveals facts just like math.