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05-22-2015, 02:50 PM
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Senior Member
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I have the Progressive EMS 30 amp. I have only used it once (brand new trailer and EMS), been Boondocking lately and I dont use it with my yamaha genny.
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05-22-2015, 02:51 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Location: Iowa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuicideSaints
I have the Progressive EMS 30 amp. I have only used it once (brand new trailer and EMS), been Boondocking lately and I dont use it with my yamaha genny.
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Why not?
TURBS
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2015 camping "6 nights"
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05-22-2015, 02:56 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: West Jordan, UT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TURBS
Why not?
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No real reason, mainly being I havent gotten around to get the bonded plug for it. I was told I needed the bonded plug to run the EMS.
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05-22-2015, 02:57 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Location: Iowa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuicideSaints
No real reason, mainly being I havent gotten around to get the bonded plug for it. I was told I needed the bonded plug to run the EMS.
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You do, takes 2 minutes to build once you have the plug and short wire.
TURBS
08 duramax tuned n modded, 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "6 nights"
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05-22-2015, 03:03 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: West Jordan, UT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TURBS
You do, takes 2 minutes to build once you have the plug and short wire.
TURBS
08 duramax tuned n modded, 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "6 nights"
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I need to get it done, I just havent, Ive been slacking!
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05-22-2015, 03:07 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Location: Iowa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuicideSaints
I need to get it done, I just havent, Ive been slacking!
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Long weekend, I'd like to see you have it done by Monday ok.
TURBS
08 duramax tuned n modded, 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "6 nights"
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05-22-2015, 03:16 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TURBS
Long weekend, I'd like to see you have it done by Monday ok.
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08 duramax tuned n modded, 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "6 nights"
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Im camping now through Sunday, after that Ill ad it to my shopping list when I go to Home Depot and Cabelas on Monday!
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05-22-2015, 03:37 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
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If you have a 30 amp rv,,,,get a 50 amp surge protector with a 30 to 50 adaptor so it'll be good for a 50 amp rv also if you upgrade to a 50 amp system.
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05-22-2015, 03:44 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grampa Jim
If you have a 30 amp rv,,,,get a 50 amp surge protector with a 30 to 50 adaptor so it'll be good for a 50 amp rv also if you upgrade to a 50 amp system.
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No adapter needed as far as the surge goes to put a 50amp into a 30 amp camper.
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08 duramax tuned n modded, 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "6 nights"
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05-22-2015, 04:49 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Tampa, FL
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I also recommend the Progressive EMS. The one I have has avoided problems for me several times. Low voltage is the most common, but also a couple of open grounds, and once a disconnected neutral. It is well worth having.
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05-22-2015, 06:15 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Oliver, BC, Canada
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Surge Protector
We've been camping in various RV's for over 40 years. Never used a surge protector, never needed one.
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05-22-2015, 06:30 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Location: Iowa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rick42wood
We've been camping in various RV's for over 40 years. Never used a surge protector, never needed one.
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Yet
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08 duramax tuned n modded, 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "6 nights"
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05-22-2015, 06:43 PM
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Left Coast
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: vancouver,washington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TURBS
Yet
TURBS
08 duramax tuned n modded, 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "6 nights"
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X2
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05-22-2015, 08:06 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: greensburg pa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bob caldwell
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x3
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05-23-2015, 07:25 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Idaho
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I've always figured a surge protector is like insurance. You buy it, and hope you never need it, but if you do, you are glad you have it. And a surge protector is cheap insurance (one time pay), usually easy to install (was in my popup) and even though, 80 percent of the time I camp in areas where the only power is from my Honda (if it is working that day), I feel safe connecting to the pedestal.
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05-23-2015, 09:43 AM
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Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 32
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Testing electrical hookup location
Fonize, I agree with you.. First plug in a electrical analyzer first to see if the correct lights appear. I do this at each & every campsite. So far, I guess, I have been lucky, but all have checked out OK. But, one never knows. Then I plug in my surge protector. One can never take things for what they should be.
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05-23-2015, 09:47 AM
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7 Year Class A RV'er
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Winter Park, FL
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That's what I like about the EMS devices at Progressive Industries (sure the other folks have the same feature, too). They have a built in delay that checks the power source before allowing the power to turn on. They then monitor the line continuously during usage and, if they turn off the power for any reason, they log the error code so you can see it later. They will come back on as soon as the problem is corrected (high voltage, low voltage, etc.) but you still know the reason the microwave is blinking when you return to the coach. They also tell you how many amps you're pulling on each leg of the power.
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05-24-2015, 09:54 AM
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gljurczyk
I disagree with that statement being electronics are more sensitive. The two most used are either TRC or Progressive. Both are great and either can be purchased for hard or portable.
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As I noted earlier. most will only recite a first myth told. And not learn the underlying whys. For example, 120 volt power from this UPS in battery backup mode is 200 volt square waves with spikes up to 270 volts. This power can be harmful to motorized appliances. And is perfectly ideal for all electronics. This UPS is typically of many UPSes. And is why UPS manufacturers recommend not powering motorized appliances from their products. Electronics are some of the most robust appliances in homes and campers.
Low voltage is also perfectly fine for electronics. Again, because electronics are so robust. Same low voltage can be harmful to motorized appliance. This anomaly, too often found in some campgrounds, should be addressed by the protector. To protect motorized appliances. Electronics are not harmed by low voltages.
One anomaly that can be destructive to electronics is the high current created by an anomaly such as lightning. Protectors not attached at the pole (within feet of earth ground) do not claim to protect from this type of anomaly. But this anomaly is rare; therefore often ignored in protectors for campers.
Anyone who recommends any protector should also say why. Disingenuous is to recommend a protector only because "I use it". Best recommendations first cite which anomalies are of most concern. A problem must be defined before any solution can be recommended.
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05-31-2015, 12:28 PM
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BuckeyeGal
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 65
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I use the 50 amp Progressive Industries pigtail. Selected based on info from wife's uncle (an electrical engineer). His observation: "when these units provide the ultimate protection to your TT, they fry. do you really want all that heat generated inside your TT?" So I went with the pigtail version.. The braided steel cable security lock takes care of sticky fingers
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05-31-2015, 08:41 PM
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7 Year Class A RV'er
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Winter Park, FL
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Nothing wrong with the pigtail setup, but the unit does not simply burst into flames when it fails. What actually happens is the small computer control board inside the unit burns out, possibly with a small plume of smoke (very small). If I was worried about something bursting into flames, I would be concerned about the inverter, which is in the same compartment.
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