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Old 07-28-2014, 12:45 AM   #31
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Respectfully, I stand by that statement for most users if you know what your system is doing. I too love a good monitor, but with judicious use of a digital multimeter and a decent picture of your use and charging you can estimate pretty accurately. For example, if you check first thing in the morning, when you are using little or no power and have no solar gain, you will know about where you are.. If that voltage is much below the 50% point (say 12.4 volts) then you know that you are at the point of using more than you want to day to day. If that happens after a sunny day then you are gonna have to fire up the genny, if it was cloudy, then maybe the next day will catch up.

Just using common sense and keeping an eye on things can do pretty well.

What did we do 20 or so years ago without all these gadgets, I for one have been sailing for more that 40 years and RVing for a long time also and somehow got by with only V and A back then.

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Old 07-28-2014, 01:16 AM   #32
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BTW, The wife and I were at a campsite for three days a few weeks ago. One battery, one 20 pound LP tank and no solar, no hook up. We came home with gas and battery power to spare. We tend to use the utilities very frugally. The point about the monitoring systems is well taken. Thanks again for the input.
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Old 07-28-2014, 08:36 AM   #33
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Forgot to mention, I use the 12V 850DN 120AH battery from Walmart. At $89, it's the best bank for the buck. 2 of those will give you a good bank and a solid 120AH if you maintain the 50% rule and they'll last you at least 5 years.

I agree. Two year free replacement on their better battery. Best I have seen on DC batteries that you won't have to get a loan for.

PS: I sold Exide batteries for 25 years, they are good....but 12 month warranty ran me off.


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Old 07-28-2014, 07:21 PM   #34
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OK I'm DONE! I can't take it any more! I give up. I have searched for the last three days. Home Depot has advertised on their website the exact battery I need to match the one that came with my trailer. I went back and forth a dozen times between the online ordering number and my local HD stores. "You have to order it on line." "No sorry you'll have to order it through the store." They wouldn't do that because it's not part of their inventory. "They can special order it for you." "No we can't special order it without the SKU number and we don't have one for that item because we don't stock that item." I got the SKU from online and called the store back. "Sorry they gave you the wrong number." Called online back again, well here's the vendor phone number call them and they will give you the correct SKU. Called the number. WRONG PHONE NUMBER! Called online back they gave me another phone number for the vendor. This one was correct! "Sorry I don't have an SKU for that item for Home Depot because they have decided not to carry it." AAAAAH I'm done. No more. You can't make this stuff up!
Uncle! I called Batteries-Plus. They have the Deka Deep Charge type 24 and type 27. I will be buying a pair of 27s tomorrow after work when my stuttering and hives subside!
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Old 07-28-2014, 08:29 PM   #35
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True 12v deep cycle recommendations ?

In that case, here is the batteries I buy. Have 6 of them on the boat.
EverStart Marine Battery 27DC-850N
At Walmart

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Old 07-28-2014, 10:07 PM   #36
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Onthelake, Th-th-thanks for the info. The shop where I'm going has comparable batteries in stock right where I can put my hands on them tomorrow after work. No phone calls no special orders no telephone vibroshmucking. I'm not really picky now that I'm not trying to match a particular battery. Deka has a great rep and they are available in the "flesh" at a convenient location. I'll check the price when I get there, I think they will be around the $100 mark. I think the 24s were just under and the 27s were just over. I'll know for sure when I get there. I WILL be leaving with a pair of matching "deep cycle" batteries. My research has made me very wary of using that term. Ive read many discussions that turned into flame wars over the topic. I just want to get this project done and start enjoying the out doors again. My next issue is whether I can fit the controls and the batteries into the box I ordered today. If I can't it's no tragedy. I'll just mount a switch box on the outside of the battery box and run the wires into it. The batteries (either 24 or 27) will definitely fit, the controls not so much.
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Old 07-30-2014, 09:35 PM   #37
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Ok I'm committed, or is that committable? Anyway all the stuff for the utilities upgrade for the Clipper is either here or on the way. I gave up on matching my existing Exide dual purpose battery, and purchased a pair if Duracell group 27 "deep cycle" batteries. I understand they are made by Deka, and Deka has a great rep. I have a lockable battery box on the way and the switch, power cutoff, metering etc. are all on the way. I have two 20 lb. LP cans and a dual bottle mount and cover in hand. The solar suitcase is here an had a rudimentary test. I also purchased a power protector and water pressure regulator for our "hookup". Just throw a can of beans in the cupboard and an extra pair of shorts in the drawer and lets haul this caravan out of town!
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CrifasiRF -- you said: "...I have a lockable battery box on the way and the switch, power cutoff, metering etc. are all on the way. I have two 20 lb. LP cans and a dual bottle mount and cover in hand..."

That was last year, so I presume by now you have this all mounted on your 17FQ? If so, can we see pictures? I've added a second Grp 24 battery box on my 17FQ, and would like to see what you have done on the tongue to fit the other battery box and double LP bottles!

Thanks!
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