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Old 02-21-2016, 12:23 PM   #11
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Yes, no battery, no spark, no propane fridge.

We found that out one weekend, next weekend I bought solar panels.
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Old 02-21-2016, 02:00 PM   #12
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Yes, no battery, no spark, no propane fridge.

We found that out one weekend, next weekend I bought solar panels.
The control panel with the on/off switch is DC powered.

The Climate Control System is also DC powered (and quite the draw so disable or switch it off (if equipped with a switch) while boondocking.
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Old 02-21-2016, 02:03 PM   #13
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Thank you for reminding me.

Forgot about that switch.
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Old 02-21-2016, 04:45 PM   #14
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I particularly like 12 volt deep cycle batteries like these: http://www.batteriesinaflash.com/dee...130ah-group-30

The reason is that if a 6 volt battery should fail due to a cracked plate or other internal problem, your camping trip is over.

With 12 volt deep cycles, a minute with a wrench and you are back in business.

Remember when shopping two 12 volt batteries doubles Amp Hours and two 6 volt batteries doubles voltage (but not amp hours).

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2 - 130 AH 12 Volt Batteries equals 12 volts at 260AH

2 - 232 AH 6 Volt Batteries equals 12 volts at 232 AH

Be sure to follow the correct wiring when connecting battery banks for even charging and discharging. Many manufacturers get it wrong.
Herk, I think that first diagram will result in 24 volts. 'Batteries connected in series', doubles the voltage. Parallel + to +, - to -, doubles the amp hr.
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Old 02-21-2016, 06:16 PM   #15
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have used 2 six volt batteries for many years,last much longer than 2 twelve volt batteries,have gone to nascar races for 3nights and not even bring generator,using heat and tv,no problems
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have used 2 six volt batteries for many years,last much longer than 2 twelve volt batteries,have gone to nascar races for 3nights and not even bring generator,using heat and tv,no problems
Have also been using 6v's for years, with no problems.

No real need to worry about one 6v battery going bad. The chance of one of the 6v batterys going bad are about the same odds as being hit by lightning.
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DON'T SCRIMP ON THE CABLING!!!!!!!

A welding shop can custom fabricate the heavy duty cables that will allow you to get the most out of your batteries. "Standard" battery cables will restrict the amps that can flow.
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I did something dumb today, I had pulled my 4 6 volt batteries out of the compartment on my Cedar Creek to check the water. It's just plane dumb to put a battery where you can't check the water. Well I get them back in and hooked up right but no DC current. Looked and looked, DW said I had messed up the camper just when we are getting ready to take a trip. I was looking and I had forgot I had turned off the battery disconnect, turned it back on and everything worked. I felt a little dumb, well more than a little.


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This is certainly one failure mode that could occur. However, you might still be able to determine which battery failed and attempt a recharge of the good (but discharged) one.

The shorted one will not be allowed to connect to the converter due to internal protections in the converter. The good one should (after a few minutes of rest to recover - equalize - internal charge after being removed from the bad companion battery). The fan ginning up when connected will show a charge being sent to the depleted battery.

Remember that due to the Peukert Effect, high amp demand will crash battery voltage due to the inability of deep cycle batteries to deliver electrons from deep storage fast enough to keep up. Since a shorted battery's voltage is less than 10 volts, you would notice the failure pretty quickly once AC was removed or the amp draw dropped the "good" battery voltage below 10-11 volts.
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Well Spock123, your only mistake was thinking you made a mistake. Actually you just hadn't finished yet..... By vote......how many members have had a 6 volt battery fail while installed in your (5er, hauler, TT, class c or A)? Would the failure rate be different between "new" 6 or 12 volt? Just asking...
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