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07-21-2014, 01:55 PM
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Welder electrical outlet- 50 Amp?
We are going to stay with my brothers in laws for a couple days. I asked if they happen to have 30 amp service. My brother says they have a welder outlet... When I google that it says it is 50 amp... Wonder if it is an outlet that we could plug a 50-30 amp converter into?
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07-21-2014, 01:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by leateix
We are going to stay with my brothers in laws for a couple days. I asked if they happen to have 30 amp service. My brother says they have a welder outlet... When I google that it says it is 50 amp... Wonder if it is an outlet that we could plug a 50-30 amp converter into?
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Does it have two 120 volt hot legs, a ground, and a NEUTRAL?
If it doesn't have a neutral, then the answer is no on using the adapter.
Ask you brother if the welder outlet has a place for either 3 or 4 prongs? If only 3, then it's not going to have a neutral and you can't use the adapter.
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07-21-2014, 01:58 PM
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NO! welder outlets are no suited for RV use.
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07-21-2014, 02:04 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Your 30 amp camper is not 240v
It is 120v one hot one neutral one ground.
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07-21-2014, 02:04 PM
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They are usually 220 volts.
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07-21-2014, 02:33 PM
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Location: Waynesville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by leateix
We are going to stay with my brothers in laws for a couple days. I asked if they happen to have 30 amp service. My brother says they have a welder outlet... When I google that it says it is 50 amp... Wonder if it is an outlet that we could plug a 50-30 amp converter into?
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NO!! Even (REAL Electricians) miswire these (30 & 50 amp) RV outlets! Check & Double Check before pluging (YOUR RV) in!  Youroo!! 
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07-21-2014, 02:43 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Originally Posted by youroo
NO!! Even (REAL Electricians) miswire these (30 & 50 amp) RV outlets! Check & Double Check before pluging (YOUR RV) in! Youroo!! |
Unless you have a ems surge guard that protects from wrong voltage!
Then hey itll be fine! [emoji602][emoji603][emoji621][emoji631]
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07-21-2014, 02:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f1100turbo
Unless you have a ems surge guard that protects from wrong voltage!
Then hey itll be fine! [emoji602][emoji603][emoji621][emoji631]
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BS are you trying to tell him (Plug in and your EMS Surge Guard will REwire his brothers Outlet)?? BS  Youroo!!
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07-21-2014, 02:56 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by youroo
BS are you trying to tell him (Plug in and your EMS Surge Guard will REwire his brothers Outlet)?? BS Youroo!! |
Lol!
Im saying or im trying to say if he doesnt know what he's got id surely not attempt to even plug into it without a surge guard in place. [emoji298][emoji298][emoji95]
In my head I knew what I meant!
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07-21-2014, 03:07 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f1100turbo
Lol!
Im saying or im trying to say if he doesnt know what he's got id surely not attempt to even plug into it without a surge guard in place. [emoji298][emoji298][emoji95]
In my head I knew what I meant!
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turbs
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Hey are you in the (BVC) already?  Youroo!!
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07-21-2014, 03:14 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Not "in" it but I bet there's lingering effects. .......
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turbs
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07-21-2014, 07:35 PM
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Yes, I hear you! We had an electrician put a 30 Amp plug in for us at our home.. He was set go install a dryer plug assuming it was standard😳... Thankfully, WE knew better than that and got the proper one from our RV Dealer... He is not the first electrician to think this... I guess they don't install a lot of these for TT, etc.
As for my original question, I guess we will take portable fans with us...
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07-21-2014, 07:38 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by leateix
Yes, I hear you! We had an electrician put a 30 Amp plug in for us at our home.. He was set go install a dryer plug assuming it was standard😳... Thankfully, WE knew better than that and got the proper one from our RV Dealer... He is not the first electrician to think this... I guess they don't install a lot of these for TT, etc.
As for my original question, I guess we will take portable fans with us...
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Just a little advice, pull out your voltmeter and check before you plug in.
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07-21-2014, 07:44 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BombDoc
Just a little advice, pull out your voltmeter and check before you plug in.
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Good advice BD [emoji12]
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07-21-2014, 08:08 PM
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Site Team
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It's probably way more effort than it's worth, but a competent electrician could install a 30TT outlet in place of the welding outlet. They would also have to go into the house subpanel and replace the welding 240 volt double pole breaker with a 120 volt 30 amp single pole breaker, while also turning one of the hot legs into a neutral.
All the wiring is there for this conversion, but it would REQUIRE a competent electrician who could do this all in about 15 minutes.
As stated, it's probably not worth the time and expense for just a few days stay.....since it would all have to be changed back when you left in order to use the welder.
You probably can still use a 30-15 amp adapter and plug into a regular household outlet at the b-i-l's. You just are now limited to 15 amps total, and probably don't need to use the air-conditioner.
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