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Old 09-10-2016, 10:34 PM   #31
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What I do not understand they claim on the specks that they both meet the recommended speck, I just make sure the whole other color is out and don't mix them. I do understand the difference which your talking about but really do not understand why you can't use the two without mixing them they both meet the speck they recommend
The specks are the same but red is a lithium base and green is a polyurea base. The two are not compatable. When we recieved our new utility plant we had a noisy bearing on a turbine pump. The contractor responsable for the warranty had some special grease he said. He pumped it in and by the 3rd day the bearing was gone. The grease had turned to liquid and was on the floor.thats when I learned about using the wrong grease.
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Old 09-11-2016, 03:20 AM   #32
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The specks are the same but red is a lithium base and green is a polyurea base. The two are not compatable. When we recieved our new utility plant we had a noisy bearing on a turbine pump. The contractor responsable for the warranty had some special grease he said. He pumped it in and by the 3rd day the bearing was gone. The grease had turned to liquid and was on the floor.thats when I learned about using the wrong grease.
I wounder what base of grease the Factory meaning Lippart uses? I know I pumped like 1 and half tubes of tacky red in when I first brought it home, never had a problem, so I guess they would be using a lithium base grease. Two years ago they changed out my hubs with that new brake shoe on them that is supposed to be more aggressive. They gave me sheet on how to break them in. Which was a real pain for about 50 miles going home, By the way I know that these delv. trans. people would not do what the direction said IMO. But I asked the guy from Lippart what kinda of grease was in there prepacked, he said he didn't know they buy it in 50 gal drums. But told me to either change it out with a grease that I like or make sure to add some grease to each hub when I get home. When I got back from Goshen I put Lukas Red in. the stuff that got force out was like a heavy chocolate milk. So what I have learned from this thread is don't mix the red or green but either is okay as long as you get the other out... It might be better just to stick to the Red Tacky 2. I surly do not want a bearing problem...
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Old 09-11-2016, 09:52 AM   #33
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I'm going to sum up everything in my opinion.
First off, if you aquired a trailer you should pull the wheels, remove inspect the bearings, and clean out the unknown type of grease. For a few dollars a piece I would replace the seals with a double lip seal.
Then use your grease of choice rated for wheel bearing service. I choose Lucas Red "N" Tacky because it's good quality, Walmart sells it so it's easy to get, and the name is hard to forget so you'll always know what's in there and avoid mixing.
Follow up once a year or so with a pump or two from the mechanical grease gun or disassemble and re-pack.
After all, based on everything else Lippert does, do you really think they're using a quality wheel bearing grease? I think not.
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Old 09-11-2016, 06:01 PM   #34
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When i bought my trailer I tried as hard as i could to find out what grease was in the hubs. Got the same answer , they buy it in 50 gal drums. They did not know what the factory used. No answers. I looked in the dust cap and saw green grease I told the dealer the only green grease at napa was lucas. He said that was it and use it. So i pumped about 2 tubes through and called it good.It was the wrong grease but because i flushed the old out I had no problems . I lost a drum due to a brake shoe retaining spring that broke. Then I found out alco does not make my drums anymore so I replaced all 4 drums and brake plates. I asked the mechanic what grease they use and he showed me a 50 gal drum of stay-lube . A young mechanic had paid attention in class and new all about grease and said everywhere he had worked they used lithium base grease. He never had any problems.When I got my trailer home I pumped 2 tubes of lucas red through. When i come back from The grand canyon climbing the Needles grade with the temp running 117 i shoot my hubes with a temp gun every time i stop and they run about 112-115, can't ask for more than that.
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Old 09-14-2016, 07:26 AM   #35
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When i bought my trailer I tried as hard as i could to find out what grease was in the hubs. Got the same answer , they buy it in 50 gal drums. They did not know what the factory used. No answers. I looked in the dust cap and saw green grease I told the dealer the only green grease at napa was lucas. He said that was it and use it. So i pumped about 2 tubes through and called it good.It was the wrong grease but because i flushed the old out I had no problems . I lost a drum due to a brake shoe retaining spring that broke. Then I found out alco does not make my drums anymore so I replaced all 4 drums and brake plates. I asked the mechanic what grease they use and he showed me a 50 gal drum of stay-lube . A young mechanic had paid attention in class and new all about grease and said everywhere he had worked they used lithium base grease. He never had any problems.When I got my trailer home I pumped 2 tubes of lucas red through. When i come back from The grand canyon climbing the Needles grade with the temp running 117 i shoot my hubes with a temp gun every time i stop and they run about 112-115, can't ask for more than that.
I called Lucas on this yesterday and what everyone posted is correct about mixing. They told me that the red and green where find to use but not together. They told me just to buy there marine base grease part # 10682. It comes in the 3 oz. size that I wanted to carry with me. They said it is a lithium base grease, with a higher drop point of 550 degrees. Also it is a different color then the tacky Red but is compatible, he said then you can easily see when you have changed it all out. Things you learn on this forum amazing....
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