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Old 04-11-2015, 04:31 PM   #1
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Axle rating and white sticker on RV????

I am confused and need some information from the more knowledgeable folks here.

The white sticker on my pop up states the gross weight for the front axle and the rear axle. The number listed is 2,100lbs each. This is in keeping with the GVWR of 4,600lbs.

Today as I was crawling around under there looking everything over after the bad winter here in Boston and I noticed that my Dexter axles are stamped 3,500lbs each.

Can someone explain this apparent inconsistency?

I understand the whole foundation of the camper is engineered together and the frame might be the weak link here. Could it also be the axle mounting hardware is causing the lower number on the white sticker?

Thoughts?

Thank you.

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Old 04-11-2015, 04:37 PM   #2
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Two things.

One, somebody put the wrong stickers on the trailer.
Two, a couple of people put the frame on the wrong production line.

At any rate you are well covered weight wise.
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Old 04-12-2015, 09:48 AM   #3
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I would say that it means....

The maximum weight each axle can carry per Forest River, includes mounting fixtures to the axles, the floor, the frame, etc. Whereas, the actual weight the axle uses is what the axle, by itself could handle if all other components can handle the same load.

These axles are used on various size vehicles. My single axle on my 228, is probably the exact same axle you have, it is rated at 3500 lbs, but that is a few hundred more than the maximum load of my trailer (3200 lbs).

I know for sure that the rear axle on my Silverado can handle a lot more than what the manufacture rates rear axle load at, but there are other considerations such as springs, shocks, mounting brackets, bed and frame to include in the actual load rating.

But heck, what do I know....
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Old 04-12-2015, 02:20 PM   #4
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I would say it means you are lucky. Most axles are barely adequate for the GVWR. I have two 4K axles on my 8680 GVWR trailer. I have 7200 lbs on my axles with no water in black and grey tanks. Not a lot of wiggle room for me, just enough for water in my tanks.


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Old 04-12-2015, 02:49 PM   #5
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Somebody put the wrong ales under your unit. Take it back and get the smaller axles that will be over loaded when you put food and water in your unit.

ie. Thank your lucky stars that someone at the Factory was not watching what they were doing (or came to their senses) and really put the axle size that should go on your unit.

I have 4,400 axles under mine and they are too light for the load weight needed and am researching on the best way to put 5,200 size axles under it.
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Old 04-12-2015, 03:15 PM   #6
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Production line axles are not built in all load capacities. Vehicle manufacturers have the authority to set all GAWR figures to comply with the vehicles GVWR. Wheels and tires are selected and fitted to each RV trailers GAWR, as appropriate for each vehicle they build.

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Old 04-12-2015, 05:28 PM   #7
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I have two 4000 pound axels under mine and the gvwr on the sticker is 9300 pounds, go figure. They are probably figuring 15% of the 9300 for pin weight would leave about 7900 pounds on the axel, not much of a safety factor. We don't load heavy.
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Old 04-13-2015, 01:42 AM   #8
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I have two 4000 pound axels under mine and the gvwr on the sticker is 9300 pounds, go figure. They are probably figuring 15% of the 9300 for pin weight would leave about 7900 pounds on the axel, not much of a safety factor. We don't load heavy.
Somewhere your trailer's manufacturer had to publish a hitch weight. It's a requirement for vehicle certification. It's probably 1300#.

Does your axle's 4000# figure come from each individual axle sticker or is it the GAWR for each axle depicted on the trailer's certification label?

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Somewhere your trailer's manufacturer had to publish a hitch weight. It's a requirement for vehicle certification. It's probably 1300#.

Does your axle's 4000# figure come from each individual axle sticker or is it the GAWR for each axle depicted on the trailer's certification label?

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The 4000# is a sticker on each axel. (Dexter)
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The 4000# is a sticker on each axel. (Dexter)
OK, go back and see what I said in post #6. The GAWR listed on the trailer's certification is the official load capacity for tire and wheel fitments and weight and balance computations. When the total GAWR is added to the trailer manufacturer's published hitch weight the total MUST equal or exceed the trailers GVWR.

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