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Old 06-17-2016, 07:07 PM   #1
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Brake shoes adjusted too far in

and I can't get it to adjust out!

Ok, 10 inch drums on Lippert axles. Removed the two plugs at the bottom rear of the backing plate. Needed to adjust the shoes out just a little, instead they got adjust in - a lot.
Can't turn the drum at all. The adjuster wheel is not a star, it is more like a pawl, it's easy to adjust out, but I can't find anything to push against to adjust in. There is a silver piece that is spring loaded and sits on top of the adjuster. I assume it's to keep the adjuster from loosening up during use.
What am I missing here? I could use some help here before I get out the pry bar and pry the drum and brake shoes out at the same time.
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Old 06-17-2016, 07:58 PM   #2
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What you're calling the "silver piece" is the preventer (I don't recall the technical term) that stops you from reversing the pawl. It's a bit awkward, but hold the preventer off the pawl with a small screwdriver while you turn the pawl with another.
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Old 06-17-2016, 08:05 PM   #3
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What you're calling the "silver piece" is the preventer (I don't recall the technical term) that stops you from reversing the pawl. It's a bit awkward, but hold the preventer off the pawl with a small screwdriver while you turn the pawl with another.
Thanks. I have tried that, but my problem is the teeth of the pawl only point toward the tightening direction. Trying to turn it the opposite direction results in the screwdriver blade simply sliding up and off the "ramp" of the pawl.
I wish I could get a photo to post.
I've looked it up on Lippert's YouTube channel. Their example only has one hole (mine has two), and the brake spoon they use easily spins the wheel both directions.
So frustrating...
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Old 06-17-2016, 08:38 PM   #4
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This is the tool you need instead of screw driver to turn adjustment wheel. You will still need to hold off locking pawl with small screw driver to loosen.

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Old 06-17-2016, 09:43 PM   #5
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Thanks for the help guys. I got it. Ended up removing the entire drum and backing plate. This allowed me to put it on the bench and shine a light in from another angle so I could see and work at the same time. Turns out the adjuster was under too much tension to easily spin back in, once I was able to tap a screwdriver with a small hammer, I got it moving and spun it in easily. Apparently the reason it is a ratchet wheel rather than a star wheel is these brakes (according to Lippert) are self adjusting. Go figure.
Anyway, thanks sent out to both of you!
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Old 06-18-2016, 10:23 AM   #6
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Thanks for coming back and letting us know what you found and how you fixed it.

Also, thanks for letting us know how they're designed and what to look for.
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Old 06-18-2016, 05:14 PM   #7
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This is the tool you need instead of screw driver to turn adjustment wheel. You will still need to hold off locking pawl with small screw driver to loosen.

Drum brake spoon
X2. Always carrying a brake spoon. Half the time you can get lucky with a screwdriver but tough job.
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