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07-31-2016, 11:59 AM
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yes a punture from the road, and yourTPM saved the rest of the day
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07-31-2016, 01:07 PM
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Since we're on that track, please please please NEVER EVER let someone 'stuff' a plug in your tire, ANY tire, from the outside, without putting a patch on the inside as a flat repair. ANY tire. It's a recipe for disaster. This is a personal plea from me, David.
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07-31-2016, 06:07 PM
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Second tire has now failed...
Sitting at a rest area waiting on Coach Net..
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07-31-2016, 06:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkyB
Second tire has now failed...
Sitting at a rest area waiting on Coach Net..
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1) Your tire minder saved you from some damage to your unit by letting you know of tire problems... twice in one trip. The tire minder has more than paid for itself.
2) I would seem for what ever reason to have a flat about every third trip and I would change to the spare. 'Then'... with no 'spare'.... I would stop our trip until I bought a new tire, which most of the time took an hour or two out of our day. Now I have tire minders and TWO spares and our three very long trips this year have been very smooth and stress free. ....
3) Advice for everyone... get some form of tire minder and two spares.
4) Sorry about your issues and know that you will over come them. Safety, first and always. Safe travels.
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07-31-2016, 06:56 PM
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All 5 of my tire failures have been tread separations. None have been from striking anything on the road. Yours looks like you hit something IMHO.
X2 on the TPMS. Worth their weight in flesh.
X2 on two spares.
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08-01-2016, 04:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkyB
Second tire has now failed...
Sitting at a rest area waiting on Coach Net..
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That looks like a belt ply separation. The distorted tread and opening in the tread area show that. Usually, overloading and/or underinflation are the cause. We can be relatively sure you have maintained pressure, but when it was delivered to the dealer, can we be sure they weren't run low then?
Have you weighed your unit? I don't remember if you said so or not.
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08-01-2016, 05:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkyB
Second tire has now failed...
Sitting at a rest area waiting on Coach Net..
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Those are some Very Rare Tires! They should be "Called/named" Vare A Tread by the look of the Tread Gap!  Youroo!! 
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08-01-2016, 06:04 AM
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OP - Glad you guys are safe and you avoided major damage! 
Now for a quick aside question regarding TPMS.
We just started RVing this year, our first 4 outings have been about 1 hour or less away.
This weekend we have a 3 1/2hr trip and was wanting a TPMS however, most say you need a metal valve stem. One out there says you don't but it is recommended.
OP did you have your valve stems swapped out?
Does anyone run with rubber valve stems? I would like the assurance for the trip. But don't really have the time this week to get the valve stems replaced.
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08-01-2016, 07:09 AM
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I run with TPMS on rubber stems and have done for approx 3000 miles so far but I can see why metal stems would be better.
Especially with larger flow through sensors which mine aren't.
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08-01-2016, 07:17 AM
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I run the rubber stems on both my TT and my work trailer. The sensors are pretty light. I suppose when I swap out the OE tires on the TT I'll change them then.
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08-01-2016, 07:37 AM
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Dr g. I had rubber valve stems for several trips on my 5th wheel. 15" tires. Worked ok but i began to see wear marks on the wheel itself where the tpms was rubbing from centrifugal force. I have switched to metal now.
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08-01-2016, 07:40 AM
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I would say get the TPMS system and place them on the rubber valves that you have now. Then when you have the time change the valve stems to metal. Metal stems are recommends or required by some due to the weight of the sensor and spinning it at 65 MPH over time may stress and crack the rubber stem, but this normally takes many many miles and much time.
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08-01-2016, 08:23 AM
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New TPMS at the start of this trip, so far 4200 miles with rubber valve stems, non-flow through sensors. I didn't have time to change to metal stems before leaving on this trip. No noticeable indications of anything wearing or rubbing so far. Now I guess I will change to metal stems when I need new tires, unless I see something that makes me think otherwise.
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08-01-2016, 08:26 AM
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I run my TPMS with the original rubber stems but use the metal sleeve that goes over the stem to reduce flex. I'm also running the non-flow thru sensors with the anti-theft caps removed. Very light weight that way compared to the flow through.
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08-01-2016, 09:05 AM
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Quote:
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Second tire has now failed...
Sitting at a rest area waiting on Coach Net..
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For this very reason, we carry two spares for the trailer. For the TV, we have the 17" to get us moving and an unmounted 20" spare to prevent layovers as we had in post 17.
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08-01-2016, 10:31 PM
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Thanks - Now I can have piece of mind!
I bought a set of TST 507 (non-flow thru) sensors. I will see about removing the anti-theft cover and I will get metal valve stem covers for now.
Should be here Weds or Thurs this week for out upcoming trip.
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08-02-2016, 11:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clr
I would say get the TPMS system and place them on the rubber valves that you have now. Then when you have the time change the valve stems to metal. Metal stems are recommends or required by some due to the weight of the sensor and spinning it at 65 MPH over time may stress and crack the rubber stem, but this normally takes many many miles and much time.
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^^^^ this...
Ran the rubber stems on a few short trips, but had them swapped for metal and balanced the tires before this big trip.
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08-03-2016, 09:16 AM
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Location: Warsaw,NC
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I run TST 507 on my 3500 Silverado with rubber stems and I have 84,000 miles on truck. Never a problem
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08-03-2016, 09:18 AM
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Oh yes I take the sensors off to balance the tires, my sensors don't have the locks on
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08-03-2016, 09:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spock123
Oh yes I take the sensors off to balance the tires, my sensors don't have the locks on
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Why take them off? They don't weigh much, but heck, I'd leave them on.
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