LTX A/T or LTX M/S

Rugged Brown · 02-24-2013, 09:44 PM

What Michelin tire would you choose and why?

Campingnut · 02-24-2013, 10:08 PM

Couple of questions 2 or 4wheel drive, on or off highway, snow or mud?

Crankshaft · 02-24-2013, 10:09 PM

I can only speak from experience with the A/T tires. Had them on a Ford Exporer for 88,000 miles. I traded it before replacing the tires but still had good use left in them. Great for all knids of road and off road conditions. Made that Explorer ride like a Cadillac (and I have one of them too). I thought they very quite. I would think the M/S would be a good selection also but I liked the open tread design of the A/T.

bakken · 02-24-2013, 10:15 PM

We have LTX ATs on our F250, and they have been excellent.
Still a fairly agressive tread, and yet reasonably quiet.
But if you will be on nothing but pavement, the M/S might be a better choice, probably a bit quieter.

jtstromsburg · 02-24-2013, 10:28 PM

I had the A/T's on a full size 93 blazer years ago and used that rig to tow my construction trailer (7000lbs eeash) and had 95k on them Before getting new ones. Believe it or not, two of the tires were bought by the tire shop from me to re-sell! To say they held up well would be an under statement !

Dave_Monica · 02-24-2013, 10:29 PM

Hope your asking about the LT metric version load range E, not the P metric passenger tire. The LT tires are the way to go for towing that 5W.

Don't think you can go wrong with either choice.

Dave

Edit: If you have the factory 20's, you may opt to a set of factory 17" wheels and run Michelin LT265/70/17 'E'...that's what I had on my Ram when I towed with it.

wyo700 · 02-24-2013, 11:26 PM

I am sure either one would work for you. I did have the at2 on my Nissan titan and loved them. They were great in snow and ice and work great for the way I will ever off road. They don't look like much but they are more aggressive than they seem. I will say that when my tundra is ready for new tires I will be getting the ltx at2 again.

handbuilder · 02-25-2013, 01:06 AM

I went with the LTX AT2 on my Titan because it had a more aggressive tread than the BFGoodrich tires the dealer had on the truck when I bought it. The Michelin AT2s are load E & even running them with less air, they are still not as quiet & a little stiffer but have stuck to the road pretty good this winter.

PapaSmurf · 02-25-2013, 06:28 AM

I have a 4x4, but still chose the M/S. I like the smooth, quite, ride they provide. I have no intentions of going "muddin", I have the Polaris RZR S for that fun and excitement, the 4x4 is solely for peace of mind.

SaskCampers · 02-25-2013, 07:57 AM

I have the AT's on my Super Duty as that is what it came with. Seem to be a decent tire so far I don't think they are very agressive and would be a good choice if you don't drive off road or in mud often. I'll see this spring how well they compare to my old Ram 2500's Dynapro AT/M's which were an awesome compromise tire. IMO I do not think they are any better than say a Hankook or Toyo or Nitto AT and those 3 are probably better off road than the Michelin's. I am guessing that you don't see much off road time so my comments are a mute point anyway but make no mistake the Michelins are very good tires and hey why not support your local tire manufacturer.

boubou · 03-08-2013, 08:07 PM

ready for new tires?
We have the Michelins LTX/AT2 275/65R20 max load: 3750 lbs. @ 80 psi
bigger tires, so the speedo is off by about 3km/hr
rub a bit on hard left turn but it's harmless
We keep them inflated to 50psi year 'round and 55psi when we tow
I find them better in snow than the Good year HP that we had before
much much better towing! not so wiggly, jello like the hp
cannot speak for the m/s tires, cannot compare

Ditchooker · 03-11-2013, 05:06 PM

I am running the M/S 2's for almost 2 years now. I am only 2 wheel drive and I do use my truck as a daily driver to work. they ride nice, and have been decent on the ice and snow (not as good as the old m/s, but the 2's have longer tread life) have about 20,000 miles on them and they still look really good tread wear wise. I went with it as i wanted an all season style tire that was quiet. I don't go off roading, and had the original M/S on an explorer years back and it was great on icy conditions back then, especially for a non winter dedicated tire.

boubou · 03-11-2013, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ditchooker

I am running the M/S 2's for almost 2 years now. I am only 2 wheel drive and I do use my truck as a daily driver to work. they ride nice, and have been decent on the ice and snow (not as good as the old m/s, but the 2's have longer tread life) have about 20,000 miles on them and they still look really good tread wear wise. I went with it as i wanted an all season style tire that was quiet. I don't go off roading, and had the original M/S on an explorer years back and it was great on icy conditions back then, especially for a non winter dedicated tire.

are they E rated?
just curious....
how much air do you put in?

Ditchooker · 03-12-2013, 12:05 AM

No, i am running the P rated since I drive the truck empty on a daily basis to and from work. (so 44 psi)

Dave_Monica · 03-12-2013, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boubou

are they E rated?
just curious....
how much air do you put in?

Your factory 20" wheels will not be rated for 80 psi...closer to 65 psi I'm told. The max inflation pressure is supposed to be stamped on the backside of the wheel.

Dave

cookie12 · 03-12-2013, 01:16 AM

I have the LTX/AT2 on my Ford. They are more aggressive than the M/S however on the highway still very quiet.

Rugged Brown · 03-13-2013, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave_Monica

Hope your asking about the LT metric version load range E, not the P metric passenger tire. The LT tires are the way to go for towing that 5W.

Don't think you can go wrong with either choice.

Dave

Edit: If you have the factory 20's, you may opt to a set of factory 17" wheels and run Michelin LT265/70/17 'E'...that's what I had on my Ram when I towed with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by boubou

ready for new tires?
We have the Michelins LTX/AT2 275/65R20 max load: 3750 lbs. @ 80 psi
bigger tires, so the speedo is off by about 3km/hr
rub a bit on hard left turn but it's harmless
We keep them inflated to 50psi year 'round and 55psi when we tow
I find them better in snow than the Good year HP that we had before
much much better towing! not so wiggly, jello like the hp
cannot speak for the m/s tires, cannot compare

Had a good chat with a Michelin rep and he suggested the LT 285-55R-20. This would give me a load rated tire at max 80psi. Now to find the best deal.

Dave_Monica · 03-13-2013, 01:24 PM

When I was tire shopping, the only LT Michelin had in 20" diameter was the 275/65/20 which was 1" bigger in diameter than the stock P275/60/20. I didn't want to reduce the axle ratio so I opted for the factory 17" wheels and 265/70/17 which are a little smaller...the same as increasing the axle ratio from 3.92 to 4.10. The change definitely improved the towing experience.

Sounds like Michelin now has a new LT tire size that should be very close to the OEM tire diameter. Go for it...

Dave

handbuilder · 03-13-2013, 02:09 PM

The LTX tires(load E) are definitely louder and stiffer than the BF Goodrich tires I ran in the Spring on my Titan. The LTX was definitely more aggressive for winter driving, I stuck to the road better but I miss the luxury feel of the BFGs so I'll switch 'em back when the weather stabilizes.

boubou · 03-13-2013, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave_Monica

When I was tire shopping, the only LT Michelin had in 20" diameter was the 275/65/20 which was 1" bigger in diameter than the stock P275/60/20. I didn't want to reduce the axle ratio so I opted for the factory 17" wheels and 265/70/17 which are a little smaller...the same as increasing the axle ratio from 3.92 to 4.10. The change definitely improved the towing experience.

Sounds like Michelin now has a new LT tire size that should be very close to the OEM tire diameter. Go for it...

Dave

only problem I have with this is: I care about gas mileaget this TV does 99% of the time.
That said, I didn't really understand about the change in size when I got the tires. The 20's are great and look great and perform well but I would go for the 17
s and new wheels too if I could do it all over again. Worth the extra money and I would sell the 20's and tires.
Michelins LTX are great and I do not find them any louder or rougher than the Goodyear Wrangler HP. Maybe that's cuz I'm half deafh??
The towing ride is much much better, no more squishy, jelly feeling
the snow drive is also much better as well as in the rain. The Goodyear used to hydroplane like crazy.

Brigitte

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