new cherokee 304vfk bent frame?

thamel · 04-12-2018, 09:09 PM

hey guys have a new cherokee 304vfk and cant for the life of me get this perfectly level.

the back over the tires and back room up to fire place are between 0.3 and -0.3 degrees. almost seems like its slightly bowed?

and the fireplace forward just gets worse. up in the kitchen its up to 1.7 degrees off port.

could my tongue jack be on unlevel ground or could this be a frame issue.

also whats the best number to get for level? im assuming 0 degrees is pretty difficult

SeaDog · 04-12-2018, 09:18 PM

You will drive yourself nuts trying to get the entire trailer level it an't going to happen. Pick a spot that you use every time that get almost everything close. Myself I use the floor in about the center of the floor inside my front door. I use a 3' level and get the bubble centered and call the rest good.

thamel · 04-12-2018, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SeaDog

You will drive yourself nuts trying to get the entire trailer level it an't going to happen. Pick a spot that you use every time that get almost everything close. Myself I use the floor in about the center of the floor inside my front door. I use a 3' level and get the bubble centered and call the rest good.

haha thanks man, thats what i initially did but then i started noticing that the floor was a little bouncy in areas, then i started feeling and seeing the seams between the floor, figured it was from being unlevel, could it just be an issue with my floor or is that normal for the cherokees

rockfordroo · 04-12-2018, 09:42 PM

What in the world are you using that's reading out in 10ths of a degree?

These things are designed with crayons, built with markers, and you're trying to level it with a micrometer!

Quilter3446 · 04-13-2018, 12:42 PM

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haha thanks man, thats what i initially did but then i started noticing that the floor was a little bouncy in areas, then i started feeling and seeing the seams between the floor, figured it was from being unlevel, could it just be an issue with my floor or is that normal for the cherokees

We have a Cherokee 274vfk. Our floor is not bouncy at all. We have had a few staples start to pop up from the sub floor, but the service guys at the Goshen Rally took care of it and we know what to do if it happens again.

I don’t understand “seeing the seams between the floor”?

rlocicero · 04-13-2018, 01:36 PM

I get it perfect every time. I use adhesive backed corner levels. I get the trailer close, then tweak the corner levels to finish, The wife complements me every time. Some day, I will reveal my secret.

**ependydad** · 04-13-2018, 01:43 PM

I know with fifth wheels (and assume that travel trailers are the same) that they're designed with some camber in the frame.

The guy giving me a tour of the Sabre factory said that they have to support the pinbox during the build, otherwise putting the walls on would flatten out the frame or something.

CedarCreekWoody · 04-13-2018, 02:16 PM

You need to get a bubble level. Plenty accurate for our needs. An RV will never be as solid as a structure on a solid foundation.

thamel · 04-13-2018, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Quilter3446

We have a Cherokee 274vfk. Our floor is not bouncy at all. We have had a few staples start to pop up from the sub floor, but the service guys at the Goshen Rally took care of it and we know what to do if it happens again.

I don’t understand “seeing the seams between the floor”?

by seams i mean inbetween the floor paneling. you can feel the gaps between the panel through the vinyl flooring.

thanks for all the other input guys, i knew using my digital level was going to lead to OCD levels of madness trying to get it "perfect"

**Flybob** · 04-13-2018, 03:49 PM

Most people level with a bubble level and I would guess most bubbles are between 1 and two degrees in size. Also most people never really get their unit perfectly level, but rather have a slight angle toward the back to get AC condensation to run off the back.

**ependydad** · 04-13-2018, 03:50 PM

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by seams i mean inbetween the floor paneling. you can feel the gaps between the panel through the vinyl flooring.

I'd likely want the dealer to take a look at that. How big of gaps are you talking?

Simplewon · 04-13-2018, 04:07 PM

I get it close with a level but want my ac to drain off the back corner and the goal is to have doors and fridge door not swing open. With that said I am never perfectly level nor intend to be. As info

thamel · 04-14-2018, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ependydad

I'd likely want the dealer to take a look at that. How big of gaps are you talking?

maybe gaps are the wrong word... raised/lowed areas where the subfloor joints are.

can feel them flexing and the high/low points when bare foot.

this is our first brand new trailer and coming from used trailers not too sure how much is normal fit and finish issue vs damaged

TheWolfPaq82 · 04-14-2018, 07:46 PM

Big sucker, like my 304BS. Bigger rear slides and sleeps about 30....well...we've slept 12 comfortably anyway. Others are correct, you'll go nuts trying to hit 0 degrees. When looking at mine from the front...you'd never know that I put the front high and tilt to to the right for the AC to drain. Depending on the CG, I'll also go front low and to right for the AC. It's never enough to really notice inside.

D. J. Schuler · 04-16-2018, 06:49 AM

Much easier rent a cabin, of course some camp grounds have manufactured cabins that aren't level either.

**ependydad** · 04-16-2018, 10:29 AM

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maybe gaps are the wrong word... raised/lowed areas where the subfloor joints are.

can feel them flexing and the high/low points when bare foot.

this is our first brand new trailer and coming from used trailers not too sure how much is normal fit and finish issue vs damaged

Maybe head to a dealer and walk a couple of others like yours. See if you can see/feel the same thing.

At a very minimum, it doesn't hurt to get your dealer to take a look.

On my fifth wheels, you couldn't tell where the flooring starts/stops.

thamel · 04-19-2018, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ependydad

Maybe head to a dealer and walk a couple of others like yours. See if you can see/feel the same thing.

At a very minimum, it doesn't hurt to get your dealer to take a look.

On my fifth wheels, you couldn't tell where the flooring starts/stops.

sorry for the delayed response, was out of town.

i think ive figured out that there are 2 or three panels that are lower the the surrounding pane enough to feel a lip. i think i feel the floor moving but it believe that it may just be going from slightly lower to slightly higher panels. TBH its these vinyl floors, you can feel more though them then wood or carpet

the new issue with the MRS is the door creaks but thats not something im going to lose sleep over

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