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Old 03-08-2012, 12:06 PM   #11
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edman - I am tending to agree with you here - of course there will always be those who will insist on the nitrogen fill ( as I was before since I always try to follow the manufacteurs recommendations - comes from my FAA days) and then there are the ones who decide it is just a gimmick.

You are the first one to state how much it costed.
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:11 PM   #12
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Even with the nitro fill, you are not getting a tire with only nitrogen in it. When mounted, there is atmosphere air in the tire before it is inflated. Nitro fill is nothing more than a gimmick to make money from the common folks.
It may make a difference in an f1 car with extreme speeds and insane temp cycles, but in your daily driver and travel trailer, it is 99.5% useless. Very similar to a late night infomercial in the way it is advertised and sold and uses the same tactics to get you to spend the $4 per tire.
Have any stats to back up your claims? Or is it your theory?
Quote "99.5% useless"
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:16 PM   #13
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f1100 - shouldn't you be busy in your shop cranking out those landing gear stabilizer kits?
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:53 PM   #14
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Lol yes sorry !
Back to work I go
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:21 PM   #15
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Even with the nitro fill, you are not getting a tire with only nitrogen in it. When mounted, there is atmosphere air in the tire before it is inflated. Nitro fill is nothing more than a gimmick to make money from the common folks.
It may make a difference in an f1 car with extreme speeds and insane temp cycles, but in your daily driver and travel trailer, it is 99.5% useless. Very similar to a late night infomercial in the way it is advertised and sold and uses the same tactics to get you to spend the $4 per tire.
I've seen pics of "race rims" that have two valves, I assume one is for purging the air in the rim/tire and the other is for filling with nitrogen. Last time I checked my trailer rims I only saw one valve per tire! Guess I won't reach into my pockets for some gimmicky sales tactics! I back up the 99.5% uselessness of the product with 100% conviction! (for the average everyday person).

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you all claim that its useless and not cost effective to fill with nitrogen but NO ONE can back the USEFULNESS . just sayin !
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:38 PM   #17
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f1100 - after reading some of your other posts, I have to say that IMO you seem to be a knowlegable guy about these things, so I will ask -

What is your opinion of these nitrogen filled tires that are coming on Rv's these days e.g. are they actually better performing than non nitrogen filled tires, are they worth the extra expense of servicing them with nitrogen and the extra of finding a shop that has nitrogen, etc?
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f1100 - after reading some of your other posts, I have to say that IMO you seem to be a knowlegable guy about these things, so I will ask -

What is your opinion of these nitrogen filled tires that are coming on Rv's these days e.g. are they actually better performing than non nitrogen filled tires, are they worth the extra expense of servicing them with nitrogen and the extra of finding a shop that has nitrogen, etc?
I just think theres a lot of claims of no benefit from using nitrogen with out scientific testing to disprove . I would entertain to be proven thats theres not a benefit to using nitrogen
sure its over priced ! my company buys I believe them to be 20 lb cylinders at 20,000 psi for $12.00 a fill .
I think maybe others would feel different if the price was say maybe $1.00 per tire to fill and it was more readily available .
WHY in the world wouldn't you want spot on tire pressures all the time ?
for tire wear and maybe some better fuel economy .
I have been proven wrong before and I have big shoulders .
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f1100 - not to get into a long term discussion and remember I am leaning towards believing that there is no real benefit to using nitrogen for your tires, I find your statement about keeping your tires serviced to the proper pressure to be what most of the other posters say is the most important thing you can do to keep your tires roadworthy to be right on.

I haven't been to my RV in awhile, but I believe the decal says that cold PSI is 80 - does that sound right for a 33 foot silverback 29rk with 16" wheels?
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I just think theres a lot of claims of no benefit from using nitrogen with out scientific testing to disprove . I would entertain to be proven thats theres not a benefit to using nitrogen
sure its over priced ! my company buys I believe them to be 20 lb cylinders at 20,000 psi for $12.00 a fill .
I think maybe others would feel different if the price was say maybe $1.00 per tire to fill and it was more readily available .
WHY in the world wouldn't you want spot on tire pressures all the time ?
for tire wear and maybe some better fuel economy .
I have been proven wrong before and I have big shoulders .
I don't doubt there is a benefit to having PURE nitrogen in tires for extreme applications ( why else would racers and airplanes us it). For the everyday person, the cost/benefit isn't there (IMHO). As I mentioned previously, the average tire/rim/dealer setup can't get pure nitrogen in our tires anyway. Maybe I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will correct me...
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