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04-22-2014, 09:04 PM
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Power tongue jack
I have a 2013 surveyor sv305 the power tongue jack is not working after taking out of winter storage. Light works fuse is good and battery had enough juice to retract stabilizers with no problem. A call to lippert mfg maker of jack said sorry out of warranty by a couple of months any help would be appreciated
Gene Gleason
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04-22-2014, 09:12 PM
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Heck what Lippert said,did you buy the F/R 2nd year Warr.? If so its covered! Youroo!!
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04-22-2014, 09:18 PM
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Did not buy it . But as I read about the quality of these jacks lots of people had them fail after warranty. They changed to a barker power jack and that's what I will do
Gene Gleason
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04-22-2014, 09:21 PM
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I had same issue, ended up being a poor ground.
(Enough to make the light still work) but not enough for the motor to operate. One single power source (12v power wire) to motor with an inline fuse, but it used the frame as a ground. I found the problem by accident, I started to remove a bolt and suddenly it worked. Guess I re-established a good ground. So I cleaned the base and re-tightened all the bolts and it never acted up again.
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04-22-2014, 09:24 PM
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If there is a manual over ride, try turning it a turn or two and then try the switch again, might just be a spot on the armature. It could also be a bad switch.
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04-22-2014, 09:27 PM
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x2 on the grounding. Unloosen and clean everything that you can around the jack where it mounts to the tongue, bolts and maybe the jack itself. Have another type jack to hold the tongue up while you are messing with it.
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2013 Forest River Salem Hemisphere SBT312QBUD
2001 CrewCab F-250 7.3 PowerStroke Diesel
SuperChip, BTS transmission, 6.0 Trans Cooler
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04-22-2014, 09:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by litespan46
Did not buy it . But as I read about the quality of these jacks lots of people had them fail after warranty. They changed to a barker power jack and that's what I will do
Gene Gleason
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While you are working on the Lippert jack have a New Barker ready to put on! The Lippert will let you down at the most Inopportune Time! Youroo!!
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04-23-2014, 04:50 AM
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I'll try cleaning up the bolts which ground the jack circuit. Once I saw the light I thought ground was good, from what I read about these jacks it appears Water gets into them and shorts them out but we will will check grounds first
Gene Gleason
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04-23-2014, 06:00 AM
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If it turns out to be the ground being dirty or rusted get some dielectric grease and apply it to the bolt and ground wire. The=is will help prevent rust but still allow the electrical contact.
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04-23-2014, 06:44 AM
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Mine did the same thing. Dealer is replacing it. Guess I'll have to keep the new one coverd. Mine wasnt a ground issue, the motor was full of water.
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04-23-2014, 06:53 AM
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Made my own that will never die and can be manually raised as a back up. Altered the Jack and use the same drill I run the stabilizers out with.
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04-23-2014, 07:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by litespan46
...from what I read about these jacks it appears Water gets into them and shorts them out but we will will check grounds first
Gene Gleason
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You read correctly. They didn't put a gasket on the cover to the manual crank access hole and water gets into the gear box. Once the box is filled, there is only one way out for the water - through the motor. Mine died after 5 months. My replacement has a cover.
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Richmond, Va.
2010 Tundra 4X4 5.7L V8
2014 Rockwood 2604WS
Life is a cruel teacher. She gives the test first; the lesson then follows.
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04-23-2014, 09:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by litespan46
I'll try cleaning up the bolts which ground the jack circuit. Once I saw the light I thought ground was good, from what I read about these jacks it appears Water gets into them and shorts them out but we will will check grounds first
Gene Gleason
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Once you get it going, put a cover on it.
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2013 Forest River Salem Hemisphere SBT312QBUD
2001 CrewCab F-250 7.3 PowerStroke Diesel
SuperChip, BTS transmission, 6.0 Trans Cooler
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04-23-2014, 11:55 AM
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Mine is in the shop for the exact same reason. Worked when hitching up, although it was slow. Got to the campground and no go. Just what I needed after getting my shoulder rebuilt a few months ago. Good thing I'm really getting used to using the other arm.
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04-23-2014, 01:01 PM
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Where is the manual crank hole located? I had my 304BH in for warranty work. Three weeks later when it was ready the TT battery was dead. They used a "quick start car battery jumper" to run it up and down to hook the trailer up. I figured there wasn't a manual crank as long as we waited for the service tech to go get the battery jumper
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04-23-2014, 01:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LKB Camper
Where is the manual crank hole located? I had my 304BH in for warranty work. Three weeks later when it was ready the TT battery was dead. They used a "quick start car battery jumper" to run it up and down to hook the trailer up. I figured there wasn't a manual crank as long as we waited for the service tech to go get the battery jumper
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on the top of the jack unit there is a rubber plug covering the access. You should have a tool/crank that can with you unit to slide in there to crank up or down.
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2013 Forest River Salem Hemisphere SBT312QBUD
2001 CrewCab F-250 7.3 PowerStroke Diesel
SuperChip, BTS transmission, 6.0 Trans Cooler
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04-23-2014, 06:45 PM
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Member
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Tongue hitch
Or u can use a 13/16th socket on a ratchet to use with no power. I have an electric impact wrench I think i will include in tools for camper
Gene Gleason
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04-29-2014, 10:36 AM
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I put a cover on mine to keep the water out. Plus I sealed around the small plug cover on top (manual override) with vinyl tape to help keep water out. Dealer says that plug on top is what causes most problems. They prefer the Atwood power jacks.
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04-29-2014, 10:38 AM
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Hey Mark0224, is that a soap box derby car in your avatar?
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04-29-2014, 06:22 PM
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Quote:
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Hey Mark0224, is that a soap box derby car in your avatar?
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Yes it is built it for our eldest grand son and been passed down to his cousin. They have a little local race here every year. Plywood form with cardboard to form the shape then fiberglass. Last 3 yrs first place, got this grandson to do it for his father in Afghanistan and we sent his father in car cam video.
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