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Old 08-05-2015, 08:40 PM   #11
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madmaxmutt I agree but this has been going on for a long time so where did the ball get dropped. Sounds like Govt. Later RJD
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Old 08-05-2015, 09:33 PM   #12
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Yeah I am not saying the NHSTA process is good, but if they don't get the reports I would expect them to fail. It is the tire maker's and partly the RV manufacturer's fault, but without us reporting the problems to the proper authority the tires just get changed and what is left of the rig rolls down the road.
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Old 08-05-2015, 11:07 PM   #13
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I agree with what you are saying. Over the last 15 years I have owned 1 class A & 4 TT's. Never had a tire failure with any of them. On the TT's I ran the OEM tires & never had a problem. I hope I haven't jinxed myself by saying this, but you usually only see bad reports & rarely the good reports. All of this was addressed in another thread a few months back. I agree that tire failures should be reported to somebody, but it is highly probable that there are far, far more non failure that go unreported. When the manufacturers crunch the #'s on total units sold X however many tires that would total, the number of failures by average would probably be very minimal. As long as they look at it this way, there will be nothing done because the problem , on paper, is not that great. But I do agree that something needs to be done, but the question is, WHAT? BTW, I've never used a TPMS either; oh foolish me. JMO
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Old 08-06-2015, 10:01 AM   #14
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I agree with what you are saying. Over the last 15 years I have owned 1 class A & 4 TT's. Never had a tire failure with any of them. On the TT's I ran the OEM tires & never had a problem. I hope I haven't jinxed myself by saying this, but you usually only see bad reports & rarely the good reports. All of this was addressed in another thread a few months back. I agree that tire failures should be reported to somebody, but it is highly probable that there are far, far more non failure that go unreported. When the manufacturers crunch the #'s on total units sold X however many tires that would total, the number of failures by average would probably be very minimal. As long as they look at it this way, there will be nothing done because the problem , on paper, is not that great. But I do agree that something needs to be done, but the question is, WHAT? BTW, I've never used a TPMS either; oh foolish me. JMO
This isn't really about those that haven't had a problem. I never had a problem with a child seat, highchair or crib but just about every one ever built has been recalled. I never even knew anyone that did. It doesn't matter the percentage. It does matter whether they are dangerous (or not).
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Old 08-06-2015, 11:05 AM   #15
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This isn't really about those that haven't had a problem. I never had a problem with a child seat, highchair or crib but just about every one ever built has been recalled. I never even knew anyone that did. It doesn't matter the percentage. It does matter whether they are dangerous (or not).
My friend, I agree with you & all of the others whole heartedly. This is a serious problem, especially to those that have experienced these issues & something surely needs to be done about it. My question is what to do. Nothing is going to change unless the industry sees it as a problem, & evidently they don't. So, what's the answer?
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Old 08-06-2015, 11:23 AM   #16
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I think reporting the blowouts is the key.
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Again I agree, which means whoever has a blowout or other failure needs to report it to the tire manufacturer. I'm sure one manufacturer could care less about the other. Plus it seems as though every manufacturer is having problems. So it is up to us to bombard them with failure reports & hope we have high enough #'s to make a difference.
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Old 08-06-2015, 02:03 PM   #18
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It is my experience with RVs that the rating on the tires as well as the GVWR of the RV are borderline. If the RV is loaded beyond the rating of the tires, they can overheat causing failure. If traveling at higher than normal speeds, the tire can overheat. If low tire pressure is present the tire can overheat. if the tire picks up a nail or object it can deflate with out the driver knowing and shred the tire. All four of these conditions can cause failure and I have experienced most of these. Last year I purchased a tire monitoring system which constantly monitors pressure and temperature. On our trip this year I had one puncture which the system caught before it totally deflated and ruined the tire and two tires that developed low pressure. Without the system, all three of the tires would have eventually failed and been destroyed and possibly damaged the RV. While the tire manufacturer may be somewhat at fault and the RV factory could have installed better rated tires. Ultimately the owner should understand the limits that these tires will stand and either upgrade their tires or stay within the limits and monitor the tires. I highly recommend a monitoring system.
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Old 08-06-2015, 02:28 PM   #19
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I spent many years working for a major tire company and I have seen my share of failures. There are many inferior tire manufactures mostly from the Middle East and Asia. However trailer owners are still sometimes their own worst enemy when it comes to tires. This past weekend I was parked next to a humongous 5th wheeler with 3 axles. I watched him as he packed up and noticed one of his tires looked very low in air. I told him about it and with a bit of attitude he told me he had checked them before leaving home a few days before. I asked if we could check them and he agreed. I broke out my trusty tire gauge. The first thing I did was gave the valve stem a field test. That involves spitting on your finger and wiping it on the end. His mouth dropped as he watched the bubbles come out. Tire had less than 10 lbs of pressure. The core had stuck open a little when he checked the pressure. I always keep some spare valve cores and a tool for such occasions and a portable compressor. I made a new best friend after that. Moral is don't take things for granted when it comes to your tires.
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Again I agree, which means whoever has a blowout or other failure needs to report it to the tire manufacturer. I'm sure one manufacturer could care less about the other. Plus it seems as though every manufacturer is having problems. So it is up to us to bombard them with failure reports & hope we have high enough #'s to make a difference.
I think the problems should be reported to the responsible government agency (NHSTA). To use an (bad) analogy, your way would be after someone runs into me, I report the accident to that person. My way would be call the cops.
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