Rockwood trailer tires?? Brand and size?

[frank4711]

Rockwood 2898KS is on the way and after reading page after page on here about factory tires looks like I HAVE TOO! replace them before I drive 5 miles?? Has anyone taken delivery lately ? what was the brand and what size are they? Am I overreacting? are they that bad? If I do replace should I move up to 16"... I understand the importance of TPMS and Temp ... In my Lawn maint business I was always spending$ on tires with 4 trailers ... as always Thanks in advance for the help and advice

[itat]

My 2019 Rockwood Signature 8290BS was manufactured 04/04/2018 and came with Castle Rock tires. (Picking it up in April.) There are stories of people getting thousands of miles and several years out of their Castle Rock tires with no problems. So don’t panic. I’ll change them for Maxxis or Goodyear long before 5 years but I’ll trust them to get home from the dealer and a few trips.

[Miweber929]

You’re overreacting, very easy to do in this group who love to China Bomb scare everyone!!!

Keep them inflated properly, watch your speed, get a TPMS and you’re fine until YOU decide to replace them, not the forum.

[Ejs4029]

My 2016 Rockwood 2703 came with Constancy Tires (AKA China Bombs) I've chose to leave them on so far I have over 7K trouble free towing miles....Including one cross Country trip of 2,500 miles....I've had no issues whatsoever. I use a TST 507 TPMS to keep an eye on them

[RACarvalho]

So far I have towed 20K+ miles in two rigs with Castle Rocks, everything from 0F to 105F temperatures, and have had no problems.

It is my believe that speed and pressure are the two main items under the driver control that affects the tires performance.
Every single time before we go out I check the tire pressure and keep them 5psi below the maximum. The reason for that is we are almost always going from cold to warmer climate and I already saw the pressure goes up 2psi above the maximum (7psi increase due to temperature)...
I always ride at 62-65mph even though the tires on my new rig can ride up to 75mph....
Beyond the above, a TPMS system is mandatory in my opinion...

[5picker]

Originally Posted by frank4711

Rockwood 2898KS is on the way and after reading page after page on here about factory tires looks like I HAVE TOO! replace them before I drive 5 miles?? Has anyone taken delivery lately ? what was the brand and what size are they? Am I overreacting? are they that bad? If I do replace should I move up to 16"... I understand the importance of TPMS and Temp ... In my Lawn maint business I was always spending$ on tires with 4 trailers ... as always Thanks in advance for the help and advice

If you truly have read page after page about factory tires, then you know there are folks that have had problems with them and those that haven't.

Asking again will only make those who have had problems, say they had problems and that you'll need to change them out and those without problems, say there's no need to.

Only YOU can decide from the statements presented in the many threads.

[My17Ram]

Originally Posted by RACarvalho

So far I have towed 20K+ miles in two rigs with Castle Rocks, everything from 0F to 105F temperatures, and have had no problems.

It is my believe that speed and pressure are the two main items under the driver control that affects the tires performance.
Every single time before we go out I check the tire pressure and keep them 5psi below the maximum. The reason for that is we are almost always going from cold to warmer climate and I already saw the pressure goes up 2psi above the maximum (7psi increase due to temperature)...
I always ride at 62-65mph even though the tires on my new rig can ride up to 75mph....
Beyond the above, a TPMS system is mandatory in my opinion...

If it’s your belief that pressure is a main item then you’d be better off always setting them at the maximum and not 5 psi below. The slight rise in pressure going to a warmer climate is better than starting off 5psi low.

[My17Ram]

I considered the set of new Endurance tires I installed on my 2015 Shamrock 233s as essential as the Progressive EMS when I purchased my rig used last year. If I were only towing in a 75 mile radius of my home, maybe not so much. But we’re towing on a 4500 mile trip out west this summer, and NO WAY would I trust the Constancy OEM tires for this long trip!

[5picker]

Originally Posted by RACarvalho

So far I have towed 20K+ miles in two rigs with Castle Rocks, everything from 0F to 105F temperatures, and have had no problems.

It is my believe that speed and pressure are the two main items under the driver control that affects the tires performance.
Every single time before we go out I check the tire pressure and keep them 5psi below the maximum. The reason for that is we are almost always going from cold to warmer climate and I already saw the pressure goes up 2psi above the maximum (7psi increase due to temperature)...
I always ride at 62-65mph even though the tires on my new rig can ride up to 75mph....
Beyond the above, a TPMS system is mandatory in my opinion...

This is the WRONG thought process.

NEVER underinflate your cold PSI hoping to not exceed the maximum tire PSI when hot.

[frank4711]

Originally Posted by 5picker

If you truly have read page after page about factory tires, then you know there are folks that have had problems with them and those that haven't.

Asking again will only make those who have had problems, say they had problems and that you'll need to change them out and those without problems, say there's no need to.

Only YOU can decide from the statements presented in the many threads.

Yes Sir I already knew that and I have read ... do you have any comment on going up a size you may have missed that in your reading. Also given your # of post and obvious experience towing and trailers I would value your opinion other than stating the clear fact that it is my decision... the final decision will always be mine ... Thanks Frank

[5picker]

Originally Posted by frank4711

Yes Sir I already knew that and I have read ... do you have any comment on going up a size you may have missed that in your reading. Also given your # of post and obvious experience towing and trailers I would value your opinion other than stating the clear fact that it is my decision... the final decision will always be mine ... Thanks Frank

I have posted many times about my issues. I started the original Castle Rock thread several years ago so if you read all the many posts, you would have read my opinions many times over. I stated so again as recently as last week in the Castle Rock thread TitanMike started.

Don't take me wrong... I'm not avoiding answering your questions but there are a few topics here (including this one) that gets beat to death weekly and the outcome is ALWAYS the same... some have issues some don't. We just keep beating that dead horse. Again, my point was, if you have read the many threads, then only you can make the decision. If you haven't read them or did a search then that is different but not what you suggested.

I would not recommend going up a tire size but rather go up in load range.

If you have load range C, go to D. If you have load range D, go to E.

[frank4711]

Originally Posted by 5picker

I have posted many times about my issues. I started the original Castle Rock thread several years ago so if you read all the many posts, you would have read my opinions many times over. I stated so again as recently as last week in the Castle Rock thread TitanMike started.

I would not recommend going up a tire size but rather go up in load range.

If you have load range C, go to D. If you have load range D, go to E.

Thanks I see you have Goodyear Endurance ... maybe a good place to start ...

[5picker]

Originally Posted by frank4711

Thanks I see you have Goodyear Endurance ... maybe a good place to start ...

The consensus for replacements are... Goodyear Endurance, Maxxis M8008 and Carlisle HD. Again, you pick the order of quality... that has been debated to death too but IMHO, any of those three are a better choice than factory tires.

[Mr. Dan]

Originally Posted by frank4711

Thanks I see you have Goodyear Endurance ... maybe a good place to start ...

I have Goodyear Endurance on my Wildcat, too... but I put 18,660 on the original PROVIDER (Chinese) tires and only lost one to a piece of metal picked up between the tread and sidewall on a highway shoulder. I replaced them when a warped axle caused one of them to wear prematurely.

[itat]

Originally Posted by 5picker

The consensus for replacements are... Goodyear Endurance, Maxxis M8008 and Carlisle HD. Again, you pick the order of quality... that has been debated to death too but IMHO, any of those three are a better choice than factory tires.

5picker, what load range did your 2016 Flagstaff Classic 5er have on it from the factory? Rockwood installed load range E Castle Rock tires on my new 2019 5er that will be in the neighborhood of 10,500# when loaded. (I'll have to make a trip to the CAT scales in the Spring.)

[5picker]

Originally Posted by itat

5picker, what load range did your 2016 Flagstaff Classic 5er have on it from the factory? Rockwood installed load range E Castle Rock tires on my new 2019 5er that will be in the neighborhood of 10,500# when loaded. (I'll have to make a trip to the CAT scales in the Spring.)

LR D... I went to E.

[Tundra 2014]

Mine came w/ Carlisle HDs. We put about 5K on them and they were really good tires. I had the same tires on my flatbed trailer for 5 years, 25K miles. If they had been the correct load range for my TT, I would have stayed w/ them longer before switching to GY Endurance. They were an improvement, but I would hold off to see what the trailer comes w/. On the GY, I was able to move up a size and go from C to D rated tires increasing load range-gained 1/3" diameter.

[SailorSam20500]

My personal view.

How much does your trailer weigh ready for camping? How much are the tires rated to carry?

If the tires are rated for less than 110% of your actual trailer weight (do NOT reduce for tongue or pin weight), replace the tires at your earliest opportunity. If your tires are rated for 120%+ of your trailer weight - enjoy many safe miles, assuming you treat them properly.
If you replace tires, increasing the weight carrying capacity is always a good idea.

From my reading, many of the folks who commented on "China Bombs", increased the carrying capacity with the new tires.

Recognize that there was a period where many RV manufacturers were putting tires on trailers that had ratings barely equal to or less than the weight of the trailer. To me, that is an invitation to trouble.

My tires are rated for >130% of the weight of my trailer. So far, no problems with >25K miles on them.

[jtesta1]

I never understood why you would want to go up on tire size. It will lessen already tight clearances. Better chance to bottom out on big bumps. Keep what you have. Run tpms and watch your speed. Don't cut backup turns to sharp. It over stresses the side walls.

[Airdale]

Originally Posted by frank4711

Rockwood 2898KS is on the way and after reading page after page on here about factory tires looks like I HAVE TOO! replace them before I drive 5 miles?? Has anyone taken delivery lately ? what was the brand and what size are they? Am I overreacting? are they that bad? If I do replace should I move up to 16"... I understand the importance of TPMS and Temp ... In my Lawn maint business I was always spending$ on tires with 4 trailers ... as always Thanks in advance for the help and advice

Your new trailer will come with tires that provide, at the very least, 10% in load capacity reserves above the certified GAWRs maximum load. That's in accordance with a RVIA recommendation all participating members (98%) are complying with.

That load capacity increase is at least one load range above the previous requirements - minimum - the trailer manufactures were using for OEM tires.